What happen to the Z hype?

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What happen to the Z hype?

Postby 1nutinthewater » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:06 pm

Ever since this crazy orange reel with zero bearings came out I have heard nothing? Is it really that bad?
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Finnz922 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:19 pm

No. I think it was more just not that good.
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby ccass » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:21 pm

I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Big-Bass » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:55 pm

ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.


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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Sore Thumb » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:21 pm

ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.

X3.
If it is about the Zero bearing reel, haven't used one, but the ones for sale locally feel very low quality. Knock a heap of money from the price and they may get a few people willing to risk a purchase.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby SSS » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:39 pm

Same thing happens to every fad. Unless its from Daiwa/Megabass/Shimano, nothing is worth even hyping.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby DirtyD64 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:02 am

ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.


Now what's this you speak of??? Any evidence for this claim or time frames???

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby pharmboy2010 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:09 am

DirtyD64 wrote:
ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.


Now what's this you speak of??? Any evidence for this claim or time frames???


The Z1016 is a magical, mythical creature that all Daiwa fans have been pining for ever since the Z2020 came out. At this point, I'm thinking it never will be seen.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby DirtyD64 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:15 am

pharmboy2010 wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:
ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.


Now what's this you speak of??? Any evidence for this claim or time frames???


The Z1016 is a magical, mythical creature that all Daiwa fans have been pining for ever since the Z2020 came out. At this point, I'm thinking it never will be seen.


Hate to say it, but rationally what would be the advantage to a Z1016 versus an SV103 with a better G1 spool? I would love to see a non T-wing $350 range reel to compete with the Bantam, maybe use the better Steez SV TW style sideplate and trickle down the "micro mesh" gears, but I doubt that for at least a few years. Still personally wanting a Pixy SV here.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby ccass » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:17 am

pharmboy2010 wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:
ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.


Now what's this you speak of??? Any evidence for this claim or time frames???


The Z1016 is a magical, mythical creature that all Daiwa fans have been pining for ever since the Z2020 came out. At this point, I'm thinking it never will be seen.


Who knows. The SV spools have most of the versatility of the 3D brakes do and doesn't add weight. You think the Steez A would have been platform to try to bring the 3D brakes back.

Pixy SV...would be nice. With an 8.1 ratio, sub 5oz...it would be a beast
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby DirtyD64 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:30 am

ccass wrote:
pharmboy2010 wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:
ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.


Now what's this you speak of??? Any evidence for this claim or time frames???


The Z1016 is a magical, mythical creature that all Daiwa fans have been pining for ever since the Z2020 came out. At this point, I'm thinking it never will be seen.


Who knows. The SV spools have most of the versatility of the 3D brakes do and doesn't add weight. You think the Steez A would have been platform to try to bring the 3D brakes back.

Pixy SV...would be nice. With an 8.1 ratio, sub 5oz...it would be a beast


I would take an Alphas/TD-Z hybrid platform that even weighed like 6.5oz range. That way it should still be solid enough for general purpose too, not that super light reels don't work, they just turn some off. Would love to see an SV105 spool get the G1 treatment of the Zillion SV TW while still including the shorter inductor to free up casting. I really wonder what will appear from the 2 big dogs in the next 10 years.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby pharmboy2010 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:51 am

DirtyD64 wrote:
pharmboy2010 wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:
ccass wrote:I thought this was going to be about gossiping about a Daiwa Z1016.


Now what's this you speak of??? Any evidence for this claim or time frames???


The Z1016 is a magical, mythical creature that all Daiwa fans have been pining for ever since the Z2020 came out. At this point, I'm thinking it never will be seen.


Hate to say it, but rationally what would be the advantage to a Z1016 versus an SV103 with a better G1 spool? I would love to see a non T-wing $350 range reel to compete with the Bantam, maybe use the better Steez SV TW style sideplate and trickle down the "micro mesh" gears, but I doubt that for at least a few years. Still personally wanting a Pixy SV here.


Actually, that comment was more a little joke to as much as the Z1016 has been and is still brought up anytime there is talk of new reels (in this case not even a Daiwa). Just having fun. Although, I do like the 3D braking.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby papabassin » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:32 am

Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Brad in Texas » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:54 am

On the "orange" Concept Z, I had this sudden flash from my memory cells about the first great "Z."

It was the Datsun 240Z brought to America in 1970 or '71 as I recall. Oddly, it seems it was only available in a few colors and one of them was . . . an orange body with black interior.

It was right at the juncture in time between us kids joking about cars from Japan being junk . . . to dominating the auto market here.

Not so with the Concept Z, I think. This is where hype meets reality. I think, at best, it will find a niche market, maybe with salty anglers since it might have more resistance to the corrosive effects of fishing those waters. Or, perhaps they drop the price significantly to attract buyers in a bit lower price range.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Johnny A » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:59 am

papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


Ehh, ~~. Z2020 is a very good non-bass reel but a forced square peg bass reel.


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