First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

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First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby Cal » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:35 pm

First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

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Introduction: The Concept Z is finally here, the ball bearing-less reel that was the talk of the show this past ICAST where 13 Fishing unveiled prototypes. The Concept Z is the first high-performance casting reel to be manufactured without any ball bearings and instead makes use of an advanced polymer technology to create their Concept Zero Bearings (CZB) to build a reel that is designed to fish quite unlike any other. The new Concept Z reels are just starting to ship and we got our hands on one for a quick round of tests and a first look under the frame.

Complete Article: http://tackletour.com/preview13fishingconceptzreel.html
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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby QUAKEnSHAKE » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:03 am

Might have to hop aboard the Z-train

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Postby mark poulson » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:57 am

QUAKEnSHAKE wrote:Might have to hop aboard the Z-train


I preordered a 7.3:1 reel from TW, and it's due to be shipped in five days.
I'm jonesing, big time!!!

Cal, did Matt talk about gear maintenance at all?

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby Mike son » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:10 am

Interesting, for some reason I thought the CZ bearings had an inner and outer race. It looks like the bearing is just one solid piece in the pictures.

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Postby tacklejunkie2 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:40 am

Disappointing to find out only 1 left hand gear ratio being offered. In addition, no low gear ratio's (5's) being offered for crankbaits. Could possibly hurt sales.

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby mark poulson » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:53 pm

tacklejunkie2 wrote:Disappointing to find out only 1 left hand gear ratio being offered. In addition, no low gear ratio's (5's) being offered for crankbaits. Could possibly hurt sales.


I'm pretty sure they'll come out with more left handed gear ratios, once the initial rush to fill the right handed orders subsides. But they don't offer a left handed 5:1 gear option on any of their reels. Maybe they don't think left handed people know how to crank. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Tokugawa » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:20 pm

Mike son wrote:Interesting, for some reason I thought the CZ bearings had an inner and outer race. It looks like the bearing is just one solid piece in the pictures.


That is the definition of a bushing - a solid piece of material. A bushing is a type of bearing.

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby tacklejunkie2 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:25 pm

If you think your product is the next BIG thing in fishing reels, you shouldn't have to wait to see how the first reels sell. I doubt seriously if Shimano and Daiwa operate that way. Hell, even Abu sells cranking reels in the 5's. Oh well.

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby mark poulson » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:12 pm

tacklejunkie2 wrote:If you think your product is the next BIG thing in fishing reels, you shouldn't have to wait to see how the first reels sell. I doubt seriously if Shimano and Daiwa operate that way. Hell, even Abu sells cranking reels in the 5's. Oh well.


I prefer to think of this as my Tesla. There were probably production bottlenecks from having so much initial demand. And choosing the most popular gear ratios to produce first made the most sense in terms of getting the reels into the most hands the fastest.
I'm just happy the original delivery date, which was moved from December to February, is now in early January.

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby freelancer27 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:52 am

mark poulson wrote:
tacklejunkie2 wrote:If you think your product is the next BIG thing in fishing reels, you shouldn't have to wait to see how the first reels sell. I doubt seriously if Shimano and Daiwa operate that way. Hell, even Abu sells cranking reels in the 5's. Oh well.


I prefer to think of this as my Tesla. There were probably production bottlenecks from having so much initial demand. And choosing the most popular gear ratios to produce first made the most sense in terms of getting the reels into the most hands the fastest.
I'm just happy the original delivery date, which was moved from December to February, is now in early January.


In this is exactly why a higher priced model would have made more sense! The reason (imo) why they did not do this is that the reel's technology simply can not compete with a high end reel (MGL, Steez, etc.). In all of their promo videos they never mention anything the likes of "it casts further than flagship reel XYZ". Their claim of 'casts 20% further" is probably based on their entry reels, which again makes it less impressive.

I am going to wait for the youtuber "The Reel Test" to do his test. I think he is trust worthy

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby Kurt L » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:54 pm

I'm hoping to see an 8.1 Lefty show in the line up. Kicking around the idea of an A3 for this spring.

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby mark poulson » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:18 am

What does it say about me that I even like the name of the color, with apologies to Jeffrey Lebowski.

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby Cal » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:34 am

I'm surprised no one has brought up the point that there is now another, potentially collectible ORANGE reel on the market that MHOOD needs to add to his arsenal pronto! :lol:
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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby mark poulson » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:36 am

Cal wrote:I'm surprised no one has brought up the point that there is now another, potentially collectible ORANGE reel on the market that MHOOD needs to add to his arsenal pronto! :lol:


I'll drink to that! ;)

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Re: First Tests and a Look Inside the 13 Fishing Concept Z - Zero Ball Bearing Baitcaster

Postby Markanthony404 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:39 am

I am more excited to see the review on this than any other reel, looks like a game changer. =D>


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