Ultralight casting goals...

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Ultralight casting goals...

Post by Craigthor » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:58 am

Awesome UL casting setup in this video and those casting skills, figured many would appreciate this here.

Rod is made by Anglo & Company in Japan, http://www.anglo.jp/

https://youtu.be/UFLL9HFAw7c

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Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:20 am

He in an inspiration for me.

Not taking anything away from him but, he does use lures that are about 1/4oz. He is still great. Using lures like an X Rap 04 and such make it harder. My favorite part of stream fishing is making sick casts like the video above.

I was able to film some casts during a session this past year. I will make a full casting video like the after a few above freezing days. Skip to 8:15 for a little dedication to enjoy Fishing Channel. https://youtu.be/MidsoHSYBSk

This guy is definitely on another level and, is what really got me back into trout fishing.
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Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:22 am

Craigthor wrote:Awesome UL casting setup in this video and those casting skills, figured many would appreciate this here.

Rod is made by Anglo & Company in Japan, http://www.anglo.jp/

https://youtu.be/UFLL9HFAw7c
Dang...those rods are even more expensive than I thought. Over 70k yen for a glass rod...YIKES :shock:
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Post by Dalleinf » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:58 am

Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:He in an inspiration for me.

Not taking anything away from him but, he does use lures that are about 1/4oz. He is still great. Using lures like an X Rap 04 and such make it harder. My favorite part of stream fishing is making sick casts like the video above.

I was able to film some casts during a session this past year. I will make a full casting video like the after a few above freezing days. Skip to 8:15 for a little dedication to enjoy Fishing Channel. https://youtu.be/MidsoHSYBSk

This guy is definitely on another level and, is what really got me back into trout fishing.
I am with you. I have seen his videos and wouldn’t mind a few casting lessons.

I wonder, is his Ambassadeur tuned, eg aftermarket spool, or is his reel all stock...

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Post by Dalleinf » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:59 am

Craigthor wrote:Awesome UL casting setup in this video and those casting skills, figured many would appreciate this here.

Rod is made by Anglo & Company in Japan, http://www.anglo.jp/

https://youtu.be/UFLL9HFAw7c
Thanks for the post. I will have to get me one of those rods...

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Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:00 am

Dalleinf wrote:
Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:He in an inspiration for me.

Not taking anything away from him but, he does use lures that are about 1/4oz. He is still great. Using lures like an X Rap 04 and such make it harder. My favorite part of stream fishing is making sick casts like the video above.

I was able to film some casts during a session this past year. I will make a full casting video like the after a few above freezing days. Skip to 8:15 for a little dedication to enjoy Fishing Channel. https://youtu.be/MidsoHSYBSk

This guy is definitely on another level and, is what really got me back into trout fishing.
I am with you. I have seen his videos and wouldn’t mind a few casting lessons.

I wonder, is his Ambassadeur tuned, eg aftermarket spool, or is his reel all stock...
They key is having a rod that bends all the way/slightly overloading it. I find it easiest that way.
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Post by Dalleinf » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:07 am

I agree. The rod and almost overloading it is important. I am able to do some nifty precision casts and catch my share of trout. Still, that guy is on another level than I am...

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Re: Ultralight casting goals...

Post by Craigthor » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:30 am

At that price wish I could try one before buying. They also make spinning rods as well.

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Post by ultralight » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:47 am

You guys keep coming with interesting threads.....

My 'guess'. I've thought that for max casting accuracy, one should have the most feel with loading that more graduately increases and decreases over a large arc for the most feedback to one's nerves so that one knows exactly what the tip/lure is positioned and accelerated. That means in my conjecture:

1. Heavier rig for feel.

a. Heavier rod. Especially towards the tip.

b. Or if the rod is very light, then a heavier lure, as much as the rod is able to handle.

I believe that option (b) is better. However, to of of sufficient mass, the lure will be too heavy for most UL applications so the approach for UL may be to have a heavier rod.

2. Moderate rod action.
The video has both.

However, the problem is that the above are exactly the factors that reduced sensitivity. So for shallow or sight fishing, or fishing such as with trolling, that doesn't matter as the hits are so obvious. With the type of fishing I do - very light jigs, casting as far as possible, in open water where sensing the bit is important, a fast action rod that is as light as possible is more important - sacrificing casting control. That said, there are guys who can still cast amazingly accurate with fast light rods of course. Perhaps not as accurately as with a heavier moderate rod though....

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Post by poisonokie » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:58 pm

That's why I think my 6'5" ML/RF 3/16-1/2 jerkbait rod is perfect for 1/2oz jerkbaits. Being right at the top of the rating means it gets maximum distance while still being short enough to easily work the bait.
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Re: Ultralight casting goals...

Post by Craigthor » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:38 pm

I’ll be honest I want their 5’11” spinning rod...

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Post by Dalleinf » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:38 pm

Craigthor wrote:I’ll be honest I want their 5’11” spinning rod...
Not ok ;)
I want most of their casting rods...

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Post by Craigthor » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:25 am

Dalleinf wrote:
Craigthor wrote:I’ll be honest I want their 5’11” spinning rod...
Not ok ;)
I want most of their casting rods...
Well atleast I’m not the only one then...

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Post by poisonokie » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:00 am

For a glass blank, that thing looks crisp. Surely that's part of the equation.
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Post by JB in SC » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:15 am

I've dropped $800 on a production fly rod, so that's not completely out of range for a custom rod. The 1500 series Abu's were always some of the best casting reels I'd ever used (I had five at one time) but they would need some bearing upgrades today. One common denominator in a lot of these videos is lure weight. They use 1/4 oz range minnow plugs and that does dampen the rod's action making it easier (IMO) to cast accurately.

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