Been lurking for a while & finally decided to sign up. So, sort of an intro & a question. I fish for anything I can with a ton of different techniques, I love new gear & styles of fishing. I'm mostly a stream trout guy & am interested in a BFS setup for tossing small jerkbaits & spinners. My question is : Does anyone use or has anyone used a kokanee rod for this? I prefer longer rods & most of the ones I am seeing are short for my taste. It looks like the kokanee trolling rods might fit the bill for what I want. I'll probably mostly be throwing 1/8 -3/8 oz lures & at times a jig & bobber or even bottom bouncing with bait. Thanks for any input!
Thats why I recommended a graphite model. Soft, but much faster recovery than the glass blanks.Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:The Kokanee rods could have a lot of "slop" in the cast.
For many local streams I have to use longer rods of 8-10’ due to vegetation.
Among the rods I use I can mention:
Major Craft N-One 7’8” (NSL-T782ML/BF, 2-15 gram) has nice power and action for 3-8 gram lures. Soft but not sloppy. Spiral wrapped and sweet.
St Croix Wild River Kokanee 8’ LM, which I find too soft and sloppy for tossing lures. It may work better for float fishing.
TFO Gary Loomis Signature Series Salmon/Seatrout 9’6” (TFG STC 962-2, 1/16-3/8 oz), which is also soft but not as sloppy and works fine for me. Unfortunately, the 9’6 Light power version is no longer in production.
St. Croix Avid and Legend Elite 9’ to 9’6” ML (1/8-5/8 oz) are fantastic rods for lures above approx. 5-6 gram but are just about too powerful for use with 1/8 oz lures IMO. I really like my Avids and Legend Elites. In general, it is my impression that many US rods, eg St Croix and G loomis, are underrated and can handle heavier lures than specified whereas JP rods are more spot on with regard to lure weight.
If you can get away with shorter rods then you have more options. I recently acquired a Daiwa Wild Stream 6’ rod, which is absolutely sweet for BFS/UL trout lure fishing.
One advantage with the long and soft/slow action rods is that I can use braid with my treble hook lures and still get a nice hook-up ratio. For faster action rods I use mono.
A longer rod is better for casting a fixed bobber or bottom bouncing.Jagerboy wrote:Hi all,
... I'm mostly a stream trout guy & am interested in a BFS setup for tossing small jerkbaits & spinners. ...I prefer longer rods & most of the ones I am seeing are short for my taste. ...I'll probably mostly be throwing 1/8 -3/8 oz lures & at times a jig & bobber or even bottom bouncing with bait. Thanks for any input!
But when you say you mostly fish streams and will be casting lures with treble or at least multiple single hooks, I can't imagine that you'd be better off with a rod longer than 6 feet for that. To me, a "stream" is a flow one can easily cast an 1/8 oz spoon across on 4 lb. mono. When I fish streams (and I've done a lot of it), most casting is not blind distance launching but target casting: eddies behind rocks and logs, slow-moving water within 18" of the banks, the shade of overhanging bushes and undercut grassy banks. Short rods are much better than long ones for helping one cast lures into such spots.
I assume you'll only be taking one rod at a time. Slip bobbers can be used with short rods. Are the ability to bottom bounce and a need for great distance the main drivers in your search for a long rod? If not, and if I correctly interpret your reference to "stream," then maybe the rods "short for [your] taste" are the best for the job.
I have used a 7' UL kokanee rod for 1/32-1/8 oz. baitcasting into open lake water from shore, both because I wanted distance then and because it loads well with light lures. It is good for that. I wouldn't use it for short-to-medium distance precision work.
Daiwa Gek B73LML, around $340
http://www.daiwa.com/jp/fishing/item/ro ... index.html
Fenwick GP Techno 74, they have a light and a ML version, this used to be a $600 rod, deal of the century here at $240
https://www.7palmsweb.com/products/deta ... t_id=20147
If you really want to go for it, have a thick wallet, and the luck of the gods, you might get your hands on one of these when they come out. Should be around $600+ and although the picture is blurred, they make some of the best looking rods I have ever seen
The Sedition Beowulf, 8'6, 1/16th to 3/8th, 107 grams
I don't know if you are wading your trout streams or how big there are. The streams of the Driftless in Mn are much more conducive to a shorter rod. This being said I fish 7'6" and 8' spinning rods on these streams. I found the 7' casting rod to be more of a hinder on the water. Especially fishing jerkbaits. The down stroke I wanted for the baits was all but impossible with the longer rod. So I've settled on the shorter Wisestream but your situation may be different than mine.