Best Buzz Frog/Toad
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Best Buzz Frog/Toad
There are days when a buzz toad is the absolute deal, but man i HATE throwing them because of several reasons:
1) they roll over and catch grass
2) they roll over and catch grass
3) did i mention they roll over?
I have used horny toads, trixie sharks, and ribbits. I like the weight of the horny toad and trixie sharks but they horny toads really want to roll and it seems like each one kicks a little better or worse than the other. Trixie sharks are great but very fragile, they also roll over. Ribbit seem to stay oriented whichever way they land but aren't as heavy thus don't cast as far.
Can any tell me a definitive superior toad? Also, what is the best hook, i have been using VMC un-weighted swimbait hooks but don't love them...wish the point was pointed down slightly more.
1) they roll over and catch grass
2) they roll over and catch grass
3) did i mention they roll over?
I have used horny toads, trixie sharks, and ribbits. I like the weight of the horny toad and trixie sharks but they horny toads really want to roll and it seems like each one kicks a little better or worse than the other. Trixie sharks are great but very fragile, they also roll over. Ribbit seem to stay oriented whichever way they land but aren't as heavy thus don't cast as far.
Can any tell me a definitive superior toad? Also, what is the best hook, i have been using VMC un-weighted swimbait hooks but don't love them...wish the point was pointed down slightly more.
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
i like using the dual owner toad hook, helps with alignment allot.
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
I like the Ribbits but the Rage Toad really makes a thump. The Rage Shad is good too. I like to use the double hook from Stanley with the Ribbits.
The Zoom frog is more like a finesse frog because the action is pretty subtle. The Ribbit is in the middle with the Rage Shad and Toad at the top for the most noise.
You can use paddletail swimbaits for topwater too if you reel them in fast enough. Some people use the Zoom Ultra Vibe worm as well.
The Zoom frog is more like a finesse frog because the action is pretty subtle. The Ribbit is in the middle with the Rage Shad and Toad at the top for the most noise.
You can use paddletail swimbaits for topwater too if you reel them in fast enough. Some people use the Zoom Ultra Vibe worm as well.
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
I can catch 20 fish on one Ribbit, unlike the Rage Toad, that may last one fish or two.
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
I like the ribbit's action but i can't throw it very far, i imagine the bull ribbits would cast farther?
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As far as casting distance goes the Rage Toad has been the best I've tried. I'll agree with the previous poster on the durability of these baits, it isn't very good. I haven't tried the double hook from Owner yet but my main toad hook is the Owner Twistlock 3X and even this hook doesn't help much. 1 to 2 fish per bait.
My second choice is the Gambler Cane Toad. No they don't cast as far as the Rage Toad but I can fish them much slower without them sinking. They are really good baits as well.
My second choice is the Gambler Cane Toad. No they don't cast as far as the Rage Toad but I can fish them much slower without them sinking. They are really good baits as well.
Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
Many here will dismiss it because it's cheap, but the Mann's Hard Nose toad is as good as any when they're keyed in on the toad. I keep it simple by rigging it on a single 4/0 Gammy EWG hook (a 5/0 will fit nicely as well) No screw lock or anything of the sort necessary, the hard plastic head keeps the bait in check nicely, even when drug through cover.
It swims equally well on the surface or just under the surface. It is THE sleeper bait of the frog world ...
It swims equally well on the surface or just under the surface. It is THE sleeper bait of the frog world ...
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
I actually just ordered some of the Mann's hard nose toads because i had heard they were a sleeper toad bait.
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I tried a pack of the Mann's frog a while back. They were a solid little bait I just didn't care for them because they didn't kick up enough water for me. No doubt that they catch fish though.
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
Yes they do cast further. I don't get anywhere near 20 fish per bait. Stanley also makes a double hook that works pretty good with the Stanley frogs. I use both sizes and use them with the Stanley hooks. The screws usually let a frog last 2-3 fish if it's not a viscous attack. I've gone one fish per frog. You c an use the messed up frog as a trailer though on chatterbaits and others.Taxin That Bass wrote:I like the ribbit's action but i can't throw it very far, i imagine the bull ribbits would cast farther?
Higher price doesn't make me want to fish one frog over another. That Mann's design just looks dumb and doesn't seem like it would kick enough water so that's why I've never fished it. Same goes with that Berkley Bat Wing frog.
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
I like the ribbit. I use the owner twistlock hook with a 1/8th ounce weight. This allows for a better casting distance as well as making the frog sit down it the water when bringing it through grass and what not. It goes through it better instead of over the top of it and messing it up. The weight also ensures that the frog is belly down. I can still reel the frog slow enough. If you have tried a lightly weighted hook Id try it.
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I got out saturday and got a chance to throw the hard nose a bit. I had a screw lock hook already on so i used that. First impressions are pretty good:uljersey wrote:Many here will dismiss it because it's cheap, but the Mann's Hard Nose toad is as good as any when they're keyed in on the toad. I keep it simple by rigging it on a single 4/0 Gammy EWG hook (a 5/0 will fit nicely as well) No screw lock or anything of the sort necessary, the hard plastic head keeps the bait in check nicely, even when drug through cover.
It swims equally well on the surface or just under the surface. It is THE sleeper bait of the frog world ...
Pros: casts pretty good, crazy durable - i caught 3 fish on the bait including a 32" pike which drilled it, normally a slimer like that will destroy anything you have tied up but that hard nose was still in really good shape, some slashes on the top of the frog but nose held tight and legs in good shape
Cons: doesn't come to the surface immediately, it kinda want to swim sub surface unless you get on the reel quickly and get your rod tip up fast. Action is pretty subtle vs say a ribbit, but i think it is enough to get the job done. It will roll like any other toad.
I will do some more playing around with it
Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
One of the best I have used is the Reaction Innovations Trixie Shark.
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
Canyon Plastics 4.5'' frog , Owner 4/0 or 6/0 un weighted beast hook ....
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Re: Best Buzz Frog/Toad
Lunker city salad spoon.
I've caught countless fish over 20" with them
One taped out at 25" with a 19.5 " girth (state record class fish...released)
They gurgle better than the rage. cast well and get up on plane quick.
They hold up very well with an owner twist lock 4/0
No need for double hooks.
The only weak link is the Green pumkin Chart. The tail is molded separately and can pull free. The other don't have this problem
I've caught countless fish over 20" with them
One taped out at 25" with a 19.5 " girth (state record class fish...released)
They gurgle better than the rage. cast well and get up on plane quick.
They hold up very well with an owner twist lock 4/0
No need for double hooks.
The only weak link is the Green pumkin Chart. The tail is molded separately and can pull free. The other don't have this problem