Bladed jig helicoptering

[dragon1]

What are your preferred strategies to minimize or rid this from occurring?

TIA.

[godshippy]

Which bladed jig are you throwing and what trailer are you using? I don't notice it much with a jackhammer and spunk shad.

[dragon1]

I am using quite a few trailers, all a bit bulky and weighted. Razor Shad + 1/2 oz Chatter, smaller Rage Menace+ 3/8 oz Chatter, large Rage Menace with 1/2 oz Chatter, 3.8 Keitech Fat Impact+ 1/2 oz chatter (this trailer casts excellent on just about any chatter I add it to), 3.5 RI Little Dipper + 3/8 chatter, Zoom Super Fluke on a 1/2 oz...

FWIW, 3-4" single tail grubs seems to helicopter less often in my experience.

I'm wondering if the trailer is too long and if I also need to adjust my casting angle, but from what I can tell it is almost the nature of the beast more times than not.

[Johnny A]

I'm by no means and expert on bladed jigs. I've tried a couple with 0 success. Tried the Zako and found it to be a bit heavy and unwieldy. I'm down to my third attempt, 3/8 Jackhammer w/silver blade and the OSP DoLive Stick 3.5 and 4.5. The OSP DoLive Beaver balances nice but as mentioned, not productive for me.

[godshippy]

What kind of line are you throwing your chatters on?

I'm using 17# Trilene 100%

[dragon1]

What kind of line are you throwing your chatters on?

I'm using 17# Trilene 100%

3/8 goes on Modded/tuned OG Purple Alphas 103 with 6.8 gears + 8lb CXX + Legit Design Wild Side 6'10" Med.

3/8 - 1/2 also fished on Evola 7'0" MedFast + 20lb Tuf-Line Domin8 + 15 Tatsu leader + Ian tuned TD-ITO with tuned Steez Limited 105SV spool.

1/2 oz - 3/4 goes on Evergreen Heracles EG Swimming + modded/tuned OG Fuego with an IP Honeycomb spool + 30lb Tuf-Line Domin8 + 17lb fluoro leader.

When I want to have a good time with mag-finesse, I'll toss 1/4-3/8 on my Fenwick/Tiemco Golden Wing 6'10" LP+J + tuned/modded OG Aldebaran MG7 + Avail BFS spool + 10lb X9 + 12 fluoro leader.

[dragon1]

I'm by no means and expert on bladed jigs. I've tried a couple with 0 success. Tried the Zako and found it to be a bit heavy and unwieldy. I'm down to my third attempt, 3/8 Jackhammer w/silver blade and the OSP DoLive Stick 3.5 and 4.5. The OSP DoLive Beaver balances nice but as mentioned, not productive for me.

Dang Johnny, that's surprising to read bro...a chatter will usually always pop a bass or two, especially over grass and fished high over rocks and cover.

[Johnny A]

I'm by no means and expert on bladed jigs. I've tried a couple with 0 success. Tried the Zako and found it to be a bit heavy and unwieldy. I'm down to my third attempt, 3/8 Jackhammer w/silver blade and the OSP DoLive Stick 3.5 and 4.5. The OSP DoLive Beaver balances nice but as mentioned, not productive for me.

Dang Johnny, that's surprising to read bro...a chatter will usually always pop a bass or two, especially over grass and fished high over rocks and cover.

Yup, what suprises me is how close to the old Arbogast Hawaiian Wiggler the chatterbait is and that was one of my stand-bys when I was a kid. I go way upstream where small river comes in and it's like a wide shallow grass bed and veg of various forms and it's not productive at all. Now, it could be related to my not matching the hatch, it's basically "all shad, all the time" except for firecraw season from late winter to spawn but even the red craw zipped.
I picked up a couple of 3/8 oz to match size and silver/nickel blade to match forage color and see how that works.

[dragon1]

I'm by no means and expert on bladed jigs. I've tried a couple with 0 success. Tried the Zako and found it to be a bit heavy and unwieldy. I'm down to my third attempt, 3/8 Jackhammer w/silver blade and the OSP DoLive Stick 3.5 and 4.5. The OSP DoLive Beaver balances nice but as mentioned, not productive for me.

Dang Johnny, that's surprising to read bro...a chatter will usually always pop a bass or two, especially over grass and fished high over rocks and cover.

Yup, what suprises me is how close to the old Arbogast Hawaiian Wiggler the chatterbait is and that was one of my stand-bys when I was a kid. I go way upstream where small river comes in and it's like a wide shallow grass bed and veg of various forms and it's not productive at all. Now, it could be related to my not matching the hatch, it's basically "all shad, all the time" except for firecraw season from late winter to spawn but even the red craw zipped.
I picked up a couple of 3/8 oz to match size and silver/nickel blade to match forage color and see how that works.

Yep, fire craw doesn't fare as well as shad, bream, green colors in upper reaches of rivers and creeks at times. Also a smaller size tends to work better.

And for your assessment of the Hawaiian wiggler, nothing truly is fully "new", rather re-packaged and reintroduced...

[toddmc]

Do you have line twist before the cast? A crooked trailer will cause this. Also, the split ring style bladed jigs tend to twist more based on a few that I tried. I don't ever remember having helicopter issues with a bladed jig, and I throw my own custom version a ton.

[dragon1]

Do you have line twist before the cast? A crooked trailer will cause this. Also, the split ring style bladed jigs tend to twist more based on a few that I tried. I don't ever remember having helicopter issues with a bladed jig, and I throw my own custom version a ton.

Personally, I think the helicopter effect is from having a swivel point connection like a split ring...I make a few as well, with hand tied braid connection from a 1/2 oz swimjig head to the split ring, but the braid is wrapped and weaved very tightly, so there is very little swivel point...my homemade bladed jigs casts very well and far with just about any trailer, granted it just tends to run straight with very little hunting action, but it does catch fish.

I'll just have to adjust my casting and release angles, and yes, also check to make sure I don't have massive line twist before the cast. Also, I know any sort of side wind can catch and helicopter a bladed jig, it reminds me very much of a Heddon Sonar catching wind and spinning crazy fast sometimes.

[Johnny A]

I'm by no means and expert on bladed jigs. I've tried a couple with 0 success. Tried the Zako and found it to be a bit heavy and unwieldy. I'm down to my third attempt, 3/8 Jackhammer w/silver blade and the OSP DoLive Stick 3.5 and 4.5. The OSP DoLive Beaver balances nice but as mentioned, not productive for me.

Dang Johnny, that's surprising to read bro...a chatter will usually always pop a bass or two, especially over grass and fished high over rocks and cover.

Yup, what suprises me is how close to the old Arbogast Hawaiian Wiggler the chatterbait is and that was one of my stand-bys when I was a kid. I go way upstream where small river comes in and it's like a wide shallow grass bed and veg of various forms and it's not productive at all. Now, it could be related to my not matching the hatch, it's basically "all shad, all the time" except for firecraw season from late winter to spawn but even the red craw zipped.
I picked up a couple of 3/8 oz to match size and silver/nickel blade to match forage color and see how that works.

Yep, fire craw doesn't fare as well as shad, bream, green colors in upper reaches of rivers and creeks at times. Also a smaller size tends to work better.

And for your assessment of the Hawaiian wiggler, nothing truly is fully "new", rather re-packaged and reintroduced...

Although I didn't catch anything this morning with the 3/8 JackHammer w/3.5 DoLive Worm, I was at least able to get some action out of it. Which, I guessing is a step in the right direction ... also I prefere the nickel/silver blade

[Basshunter1955]

I balance all my blade baits with the skirting material I layer and tie onto my baits. And the trailers I use and the line size I use when throwing them. And alone with the bait caster I use.

[dragon1]

I balance all my blade baits with the skirting material I layer and tie onto my baits. And the trailers I use and the line size I use when throwing them. And alone with the bait caster I use.

Much respect to your bladed jig OCD prowess...I'm not anywhere near that level. Lol.