Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

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Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by reason162 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:05 am

I picked up a bunch of Rozante 77s, wondering how you guys compare these to the venerable Pointer 78s?

Likewise the Duo Minnow 80SP vs the discontinued Flash minnow Tr85SPs...both shallow baits, but wondering if certain conditions call for one over the other. The duo minnow suspends almost vertically, head up (tail weighted), the flash minnow slightly head down.

Any other suggestions in that 70-80mm size jerkbaits that you guys consider must haves?

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by jerkbait22 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:59 am

I personally like the flash minnow 95MR but they no longer make them. Good bait to fish over the tops of submergent weed beds when they are about 2-3 feet from the surface.

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by reason162 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:10 pm

jerkbait22 wrote:I personally like the flash minnow 95MR but they no longer make them. Good bait to fish over the tops of submergent weed beds when they are about 2-3 feet from the surface.
I picked up couple of the 95s as well, can't wait to use them!

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by Jeffbro999 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:14 am

The new TR95 SP Flash Minnows have been a great shallow water replacement for the 95MR. Not much movement on a straight retrieve, but can really dance when you start twitching it. Still does a full 180 easily, and suspends really well. The 85 size are super light and tiny, but cast well and sit 45 degrees with the head up. I fish them on a fast retrieve and do well early summer on them. No experience with the other baits except for the Pointer, and hard to compare a Pointer and Flash Minnow since they are two very different baits.

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by jerkbait22 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:01 pm

JBcrankaddict wrote:The new TR95 SP Flash Minnows have been a great shallow water replacement for the 95MR. Not much movement on a straight retrieve, but can really dance when you start twitching it. Still does a full 180 easily, and suspends really well. The 85 size are super light and tiny, but cast well and sit 45 degrees with the head up. I fish them on a fast retrieve and do well early summer on them. No experience with the other baits except for the Pointer, and hard to compare a Pointer and Flash Minnow since they are two very different baits.
Where can one find the new TR95 SP flash minnows?

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by reason162 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:28 pm

JBcrankaddict wrote:The new TR95 SP Flash Minnows have been a great shallow water replacement for the 95MR. Not much movement on a straight retrieve, but can really dance when you start twitching it. Still does a full 180 easily, and suspends really well. The 85 size are super light and tiny, but cast well and sit 45 degrees with the head up. I fish them on a fast retrieve and do well early summer on them. No experience with the other baits except for the Pointer, and hard to compare a Pointer and Flash Minnow since they are two very different baits.
Thanks! I just checked again and yes...both flash minnows sit slightly head up. The Duo minnow cocks up at about 85 degrees lol...

These two look like they'll play in the same shallow zone, can't wait to try them side by side:

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by reason162 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:28 pm

jerkbait22 wrote:Where can one find the new TR95 SP flash minnows?
Got mine on fleabay...

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by jerkbait22 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:47 am

reason162 wrote:
jerkbait22 wrote:Where can one find the new TR95 SP flash minnows?
Got mine on fleabay...
I'm not sure if they are new then? I think the TR have been around a while

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by Jeffbro999 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:25 am

jerkbait22 wrote:
Where can one find the new TR95 SP flash minnows?
I also buy mine off of EBay. I apologize, I should have said “newer” as I assume they came out after the MR was discontinued. Never saw them available while I was hunting down every last MR I could find :lol: Once the MR disappeared these started to pop up instead. Have tried to get more info on the SP, but not much out there.

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by Jeffbro999 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:29 am

reason162 wrote:
Thanks! I just checked again and yes...both flash minnows sit slightly head up. The Duo minnow cocks up at about 85 degrees lol...

These two look like they'll play in the same shallow zone, can't wait to try them side by side:

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I’m definitely gonna have to try that Duo soon. Always looking for a good alternative to the FM. Thanks for the pic, looks sweet side by side!

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by poisonokie » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:14 pm

My Rozante 63 dives deeper than you'd expect, has a wild action, and slowly floats at about 50-60 deg tail up. I'd love to try the larger sizes. The only other duo jerkbait I have is the 100DR and I don't know what it does because it really gets down there.
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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by reason162 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:17 am

poisonokie wrote:My Rozante 63 dives deeper than you'd expect, has a wild action, and slowly floats at about 50-60 deg tail up. I'd love to try the larger sizes. The only other duo jerkbait I have is the 100DR and I don't know what it does because it really gets down there.
Interesting, I want to pick up a couple of Rozante 63s too. They all seem to slow float, the 77s...my perch pattern took a LOT of tinkering to get it to suspend. And what a strong magnet Duo put in that bait lol.

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by reason162 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:18 am

JBcrankaddict wrote:I’m definitely gonna have to try that Duo soon. Always looking for a good alternative to the FM. Thanks for the pic, looks sweet side by side!
Have you ever used hard jerkbaits to target flounder? I plan on experimenting with a few deep divers for fluke up here this year.

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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by poisonokie » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:15 pm

reason162 wrote:
poisonokie wrote:My Rozante 63 dives deeper than you'd expect, has a wild action, and slowly floats at about 50-60 deg tail up. I'd love to try the larger sizes. The only other duo jerkbait I have is the 100DR and I don't know what it does because it really gets down there.
Interesting, I want to pick up a couple of Rozante 63s too. They all seem to slow float, the 77s...my perch pattern took a LOT of tinkering to get it to suspend. And what a strong magnet Duo put in that bait lol.
Weight transfer baits will spoil you, that's for sure, and duo makes some good ones. My favorite one ever, though, is the now discontinued Ever Green CR02 Combat Crank squarebill. Man, that thing will fly.
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Re: Duo Rozante 77 vs Pointer 78, Minnow 80SP vs Flash minnow

Post by Jeffbro999 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:24 pm

reason162 wrote:
JBcrankaddict wrote:I’m definitely gonna have to try that Duo soon. Always looking for a good alternative to the FM. Thanks for the pic, looks sweet side by side!
Have you ever used hard jerkbaits to target flounder? I plan on experimenting with a few deep divers for fluke up here this year.
I usually throw jigs for flounder, but have caught a lot of them on a jerkbait while fishing through some shallow flats for trout and reds. Watching one track your jerkbait before biting is pretty cool, they can be pretty aggressive. With the way they chase them down on the flats, I would think a deep diver would work well.

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