FG finish help

[green weenie]

Need help from the experts… I’ve become pretty proficient with the fg, finally found a technique that is working for me. I am still having problems though with the finish knots coming untied whether I’m using the risutto or alternating half hitches. Ive used 3-7 turns for the risutto and I’ve even half hitched as much as 6-8 times in my experimenting. Both are coming untied through the day and I end up with about 1/4-1/3 inch of tag line. I’m thinking it’s the YGK’s x8 thinness and smoothness that is not holding/gripping. Main Knot is still holding strong though. Thoughts?

[Cal]

That finish knot on the FG is why I abandoned the FG knot personally.

There's a finish knot I try to explain on page 2 of my writeup on PowerPro's Hollow Ace you might try.

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpowerpr ... cepg2.html

[dennis_rf]

The finish and half hitches will undo for me as well, using mostly PE0.6 to 1.0 8 braided lines. I use a tiny bit of superglue to stop them from doing that. Just a little on the outside, not a full penetration. The main knot is not glued. Works perfectly, never failed, no loss in knot strength.
As my leader is fairly long I almost never have to re-tie the FG on the water and tie + glue the leaders at home

[Drakestar]

Same as dennis_rf for me, I used a dab of super glue to finish it up. FG knot, 4 half hitches, rizzuto with 5 or 6 loops, small amount of super glue to hold the cut off line in place (doesn't touch the actual FG knot, it's just on the hitches/rizzuto part of the knot.

Rizzuto often holds well (hours) without the super glue, but after a lot of fishing I've had the rizzuto part unwind before as it does for you.

[slipperybob]

Not an expert in any means.

I've rarely ever had my finish knot undone on me. However I tie up very small diameter lines, especially for ice fishing. So from:

Diawa J-Braid x8 in 6# to 10# of listed diameter of .06mm to .15mm.
YGK G-Soul Upgrade X-8 14# and 16# listed diameter of .131 to .153mm.
Berkley Fireline Ultra 8 carrier .12mm 4#
Sufix 832 Ice Braid .10mm 4#
Sufix 131 G-Core 6# .14 mm
Sufix 131 G-Core 10# .20 mm
YGK G-Soul SS112 Sinking Braid .165 mm 10#
YGK G-Soul SS112 Sinking Braid .185 mm 14#

My leader is typically a 4# listed mono of diameter from .18mm to .235mm. I will go higher of upwards to an 8# listed mono of diameter from .22mm to .275mm. I will admit to using fluorocarbon leader lines for more than one season. Maybe five years old on some set up, whoops. If it ain't breaking, I just keep using it.

Okay for small thin lines, my FG knot consists of 16 wraps, 8 each side. I tie one half knot to hold, when pulling tight. Then add 4 more half hitch knots, each one reverse of the last one on leader line. 4 more half hitch knots alternating in reverse of each one. Then finish with a 4 wrap Rizutto knot. Making sure it, that it's in reverse of the last half hitch knot.

Last few years. Lately when I trim the end of the braid to like 1/8th inch. I burn it with a lighter. Also burn the end of the leader to smooth it out too.

Because I tied with a larger diameter set up. Berkly X9 50# to a 30# mono and the finishing knot began to unravel. It was just for catfishing set up, so not a lot of casting involved. So with the burned end, it actually holds much better without unraveling.

[green weenie]

Thanks all. I’ll give all those suggestions a try. Wes