Daiwa Project T 2020

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by 4g63power » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:39 am

Oh yea sure today is the day i learn all daiwa reels are jdm design reels and daiwa is a Japanese company. :roll: What i meant is those were tweaked from JDM versions to move as high end jdm style reels for north american market.

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by hoohoorjoo » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:56 am

4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:39 am
Oh yea sure today is the day i learn all daiwa reels are jdm design reels and daiwa is a Japanese company. :roll: What i meant is those were tweaked from JDM versions to move as high end jdm style reels for north american market.
Not sure I see your point. You seemed to say that JDM reels didnt sell well here, but you mention the Zillion Type R, PX-R and Z200. Those reels all sold well here, with the Zillion Type R being highly revered, even today. Daiwa's overpricing of the PX-R and Z200 is the only thing that hindered them from being best sellers.
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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by E73Bass » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:08 pm

hoohoorjoo wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:56 am
4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:39 am
Oh yea sure today is the day i learn all daiwa reels are jdm design reels and daiwa is a Japanese company. :roll: What i meant is those were tweaked from JDM versions to move as high end jdm style reels for north american market.
Not sure I see your point. You seemed to say that JDM reels didnt sell well here, but you mention the Zillion Type R, PX-R and Z200. Those reels all sold well here, with the Zillion Type R being highly revered, even today. Daiwa's overpricing of the PX-R and Z200 is the only thing that hindered them from being best sellers.
Good sellers according to TT.
Not on the overall USDM
The Zillion R was a triple release ... USDM/JDM/ Aus release.

The other 2 were never on the USDM list.

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by daiwafan » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:52 pm

PX type R which was basically identical to the PX-R except for color, was sold in the US. I think in general the US market has yet to see the benefit of going smaller and lighter. Most US anglers want to throw larger baits with heavier line than the anglers in Japan.

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by hoohoorjoo » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:54 pm

E73Bass wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:08 pm
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:56 am
4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:39 am
Oh yea sure today is the day i learn all daiwa reels are jdm design reels and daiwa is a Japanese company. :roll: What i meant is those were tweaked from JDM versions to move as high end jdm style reels for north american market.
Not sure I see your point. You seemed to say that JDM reels didnt sell well here, but you mention the Zillion Type R, PX-R and Z200. Those reels all sold well here, with the Zillion Type R being highly revered, even today. Daiwa's overpricing of the PX-R and Z200 is the only thing that hindered them from being best sellers.
Good sellers according to TT.
Not on the overall USDM
The Zillion R was a triple release ... USDM/JDM/ Aus release.

The other 2 were never on the USDM list.
Both of those were USDM reels. The Z200 was the US version of the JDM Z2020 and the PX-R was the US version of the JDM PX68. The PX-R was one of the few reels released in the US that had more/better features than its JDM counterpart. The Zilllion Type R was basically the same, except for the swept handle and the Z200 was watered down.
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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by doomtrprz71 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:30 pm

After seeing that new steez I just bought two more JDM Catalina's

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by E73Bass » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:53 pm

hoohoorjoo wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:54 pm
E73Bass wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:08 pm
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:56 am
4g63power wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:39 am
Oh yea sure today is the day i learn all daiwa reels are jdm design reels and daiwa is a Japanese company. :roll: What i meant is those were tweaked from JDM versions to move as high end jdm style reels for north american market.
Exactly...released different reels... doubt you will see the Steez Air in USA.

Not sure I see your point. You seemed to say that JDM reels didnt sell well here, but you mention the Zillion Type R, PX-R and Z200. Those reels all sold well here, with the Zillion Type R being highly revered, even today. Daiwa's overpricing of the PX-R and Z200 is the only thing that hindered them from being best sellers.
Good sellers according to TT.
Not on the overall USDM
The Zillion R was a triple release ... USDM/JDM/ Aus release.

The other 2 were never on the USDM list.
Both of those were USDM reels. The Z200 was the US version of the JDM Z2020 and the PX-R was the US version of the JDM PX68. The PX-R was one of the few reels released in the US that had more/better features than its JDM counterpart. The Zilllion Type R was basically the same, except for the swept handle and the Z200 was watered down.
They were not USDM reels.
Z200 was a USDM reels.
PX-R was a USDM reel.
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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:09 pm

Does anyone think Daiwa will do something crazy like a TWS Alphas or Pixy?

What about a re-release of an SV103/Zillion?
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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by ss30378 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:07 pm

Looks like the steez ct will have a new 7 ratio.

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by Hogsticker2 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:39 pm

Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:09 pm
Does anyone think Daiwa will do something crazy like a TWS Alphas or Pixy?

What about a re-release of an SV103/Zillion?
I highly doubt it to be honest. Consider the new Steez Air the new Pixy. The Alphas platform will never die.. And for good reason.

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by IlliniDawg01 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:14 am

Hogsticker2 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:22 pm
For the most part, current Daiwa reels keep me satisfied. They can't all be winners I suppose. But, I'm sick of the same paint schemes and colors. We used to get carbon handles on higher end models, but now, at 600 plus, we get the same recycled crap... Again and again. These new spool sizes kinda kill the fun, and are lining Daiwas pockets, as their just aren't many alternatives out there yet. The Zaion drag star is well played out. Even limited models are getting it. Just design a new carbon handle, make a yellow reel... That's all it would take to get the enthusiastic blood flowing again. Bring back the personal order custom colors to a JDM reel. Just do something other than giving me less for more. We all know the Tdz isn't coming back, so maybe it's time to make another iconic reel. Daiwa knows it would sell. It's all getting a little stale imo. The Steez SV TW was a homerun as far as I'm concerned, but outside of that? They should have also kept the SV103 moving along. I'd still like to see an aluminum T3 without the hood. Give me a new carbon handle and some color options - I'm all in. Don't forget the 3D braking though please.
Totally agree Hogsticker.

Man, I LOVE the T3... except the line doesn't like to fall into the TWing consistently and they get geary after like 2 uses. But the spools (not counting Ballistic), the 3D braking, the size and the shape are all perfect.

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by domthewon » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:28 am

Looks like the Zillion 10 and steez air will be available in Japan later this month. They’re available for preorder now.

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by HKN » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:05 am

Looking forward for the zillion 10

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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by johnD » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:39 am

Another new vid went up last night.


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Re: Daiwa Project T 2020

Post by dennis_rf » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:54 am

Do the US Pros beat around the bush avoiding talking about the reel or is it random footage they just had lying around 🤷🏻‍♂️

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