Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:21 am
Someone had a new lefty model on eBay for $299
Just to let you know I threw this reel with the steez a spool on my 6’9” Sedition Hooligan that I use as a frog rod yesterday. I’ve thrown it before but been limited on casting distance available due to fishing smaller ponds near my house most recently. I went out to the delta and bombs away. I had to turn the brakes on the morethan down about 2 or 3 notches so the spool would have the same action. Seems like the Steez A spool doesn’t need to be heavily braked and is slightly more controlled than the stock spool. With the brakes turned down a little I was getting all the casting distance I was looking for. I guess the morethan spool is slightly more free, but like I said once adjusted the line flew off the steez a spool just as good as the morethan spool. I don’t know how much more line the Steez spool holds, but I do know I wasn’t getting down to the electrical tape holding my braid like I can with the stock spool. I would also state that the distance I was able to cast was much farther than my effective and comfortable hook setting range and wouldn’t be casting as far as I was and actually expect to hook up with a fish using a frog. Just testing purposes.jrk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:21 amThanks. I'm going to look into finding a Steez A spool then. I like this reel, but only wish it was a little larger for my fishing...like a 200 sized I guess.domthewon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:21 amFor me the spools act very similar in the morethan. I only use them to cast for distance not for controlled skipping or anything like that. I use the one with the steez a spool for a little extra capacity. With a frog on I can spool the stock spool on any cast. With the steez a I have a little extra backing left over unless I really go hard with 50lb braid.jrk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:49 pmI'm new to the Daiwa offerings for the most part. Picked up this reel and was shocked at how small it was, but that's me coming from many years using one of original Calais DC's for fresh. I'm curious about the post above that indicates using a steez A spool in this reel. This would add more line capacity and still offer good casting distance?
Gone- bummer.....
Very much appreciate this feedback. Not had a chance to look into a steez a spool, but will soon. With stock spool, it's definitely a hot reel. I cut my teeth with Daiwa on their Coastal TWS over last couple of years, but this has been inshore and occasionally bombing 1.5oz sting silvers on my 10.5 Century 1265. We have tremendous wind often here in Buxton, NC, and this Coastal has been the most drama free distance machine I've ever thrown. Had several variants of the Calais DC reels over the years they were made, as well as trying the last incarnation...Antares DC. The first models early on were amazing, but it seems to me and my use that as the years went by these became more focused on control and less on distance. This Daiwa TWS has caught my attention after my limited use of their Coastal and thus the recent Morethan purchase. As stated, I do like this reel, but I'm not used to something so limited in line capacity and so small...pain in the a** to get my fingers on the spool adjustment behind the drag star as well as adjusting the mag dial, but it will cast I believe better than my previous Calais usage. Definitely more "twitchy" than my Coastal, but that is most likely due to it's intended design and ability to throw smaller lures.domthewon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:43 amJust to let you know I threw this reel with the steez a spool on my 6’9” Sedition Hooligan that I use as a frog rod yesterday. I’ve thrown it before but been limited on casting distance available due to fishing smaller ponds near my house most recently. I went out to the delta and bombs away. I had to turn the brakes on the morethan down about 2 or 3 notches so the spool would have the same action. Seems like the Steez A spool doesn’t need to be heavily braked and is slightly more controlled than the stock spool. With the brakes turned down a little I was getting all the casting distance I was looking for. I guess the morethan spool is slightly more free, but like I said once adjusted the line flew off the steez a spool just as good as the morethan spool. I don’t know how much more line the Steez spool holds, but I do know I wasn’t getting down to the electrical tape holding my braid like I can with the stock spool. I would also state that the distance I was able to cast was much farther than my effective and comfortable hook setting range and wouldn’t be casting as far as I was and actually expect to hook up with a fish using a frog. Just testing purposes.jrk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:21 amThanks. I'm going to look into finding a Steez A spool then. I like this reel, but only wish it was a little larger for my fishing...like a 200 sized I guess.domthewon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:21 amFor me the spools act very similar in the morethan. I only use them to cast for distance not for controlled skipping or anything like that. I use the one with the steez a spool for a little extra capacity. With a frog on I can spool the stock spool on any cast. With the steez a I have a little extra backing left over unless I really go hard with 50lb braid.jrk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:49 pmI'm new to the Daiwa offerings for the most part. Picked up this reel and was shocked at how small it was, but that's me coming from many years using one of original Calais DC's for fresh. I'm curious about the post above that indicates using a steez A spool in this reel. This would add more line capacity and still offer good casting distance?
Some of the points made here are a few of the reasons that I think the OG Morethan is a better overall reel for a lot of people, especially if you are actually using it for salt applications. (see page 1 rant) I recognize some of the benifits the new Morethan offered, and there is no doubt it is a sweet black and gold Steez A. On the other hand, th new Daiwa Coastal is a complete joke in my opinion. (I don't care what frame it's built on) At $250 for the new Coastal, I would be looking for a gently used OG Morethan instead for the same price or slightly more. The pinnicle currently for Daiwa would still be the Battler 1520 and a bonus with a HLC Deep Spool.jrk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:56 amAs stated, I do like this reel, but I'm not used to something so limited in line capacity and so small...pain in the a** to get my fingers on the spool adjustment behind the drag star as well as adjusting the mag dial, but it will cast I believe better than my previous Calais usage. Definitely more "twitchy" than my Coastal, but that is most likely due to it's intended design and ability to throw smaller lures.
If they produced a 200 sized version of this, I suspect it would be my perfect reel. And to clarify my expressed opinions...my happy place is hunting big reds on the shallow flats in open water. With this, as the water heats up and the summer starts getting late, these fish get spooky. This is where drama free distance is a requirement of mine. I'll use this Morethan for my large and smallmouth hunts, but if they ever made a larger size, I'd pick it up quickly.
Interesting.Aquaftm45 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 amSome of the points made here are a few of the reasons that I think the OG Morethan is a better overall reel for a lot of people, especially if you are actually using it for salt applications. (see page 1 rant) I recognize some of the benifits the new Morethan offered, and there is no doubt it is a sweet black and gold Steez A. On the other hand, th new Daiwa Coastal is a complete joke in my opinion. (I don't care what frame it's built on) At $250 for the new Coastal, I would be looking for a gently used OG Morethan instead for the same price or slightly more. The pinnicle currently for Daiwa would still be the Battler 1520 and a bonus with a HLC Deep Spool.jrk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:56 amAs stated, I do like this reel, but I'm not used to something so limited in line capacity and so small...pain in the a** to get my fingers on the spool adjustment behind the drag star as well as adjusting the mag dial, but it will cast I believe better than my previous Calais usage. Definitely more "twitchy" than my Coastal, but that is most likely due to it's intended design and ability to throw smaller lures.
If they produced a 200 sized version of this, I suspect it would be my perfect reel. And to clarify my expressed opinions...my happy place is hunting big reds on the shallow flats in open water. With this, as the water heats up and the summer starts getting late, these fish get spooky. This is where drama free distance is a requirement of mine. I'll use this Morethan for my large and smallmouth hunts, but if they ever made a larger size, I'd pick it up quickly.
Also, for those who actually use these in Salt, like you sir, don't be afraid to find and use a high quality Japanese 1.5 or 2 size PE Varivas Seabass is a great option. Just make sure you have your leader knot game on point especially if your going to a 30 or 40# leader with the small PE.
And KV Damn...when the wind get's blowing 25-30, grab a spinning rod!
Aquaftm45 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 amSome of the points made here are a few of the reasons that I think the OG Morethan is a better overall reel for a lot of people, especially if you are actually using it for salt applications. (see page 1 rant) I recognize some of the benifits the new Morethan offered, and there is no doubt it is a sweet black and gold Steez A. On the other hand, th new Daiwa Coastal is a complete joke in my opinion. (I don't care what frame it's built on) At $250 for the new Coastal, I would be looking for a gently used OG Morethan instead for the same price or slightly more. The pinnicle currently for Daiwa would still be the Battler 1520 and a bonus with a HLC Deep Spool.jrk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:56 amAs stated, I do like this reel, but I'm not used to something so limited in line capacity and so small...pain in the a** to get my fingers on the spool adjustment behind the drag star as well as adjusting the mag dial, but it will cast I believe better than my previous Calais usage. Definitely more "twitchy" than my Coastal, but that is most likely due to it's intended design and ability to throw smaller lures.
If they produced a 200 sized version of this, I suspect it would be my perfect reel. And to clarify my expressed opinions...my happy place is hunting big reds on the shallow flats in open water. With this, as the water heats up and the summer starts getting late, these fish get spooky. This is where drama free distance is a requirement of mine. I'll use this Morethan for my large and smallmouth hunts, but if they ever made a larger size, I'd pick it up quickly.
Also, for those who actually use these in Salt, like you sir, don't be afraid to find and use a high quality Japanese 1.5 or 2 size PE Varivas Seabass is a great option. Just make sure you have your leader knot game on point especially if your going to a 30 or 40# leader with the small PE.
And KV Damn...when the wind get's blowing 25-30, grab a spinning rod!
Well, no..I was bieng a little facetious. The Morethan PE SV has more features, (some that are really important to people) you can see the differences here. If I had to pick between the two, I would go with the Morethan PE SV, (only if I had a gold accented rod..haha) I still hate the sideplate and dial on both reels..personal preference.chrisg_sdcf wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:54 pmAquaftm45 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 amSome of the points made here are a few of the reasons that I think the OG Morethan is a better overall reel for a lot of people, especially if you are actually using it for salt applications. (see page 1 rant) I recognize some of the benifits the new Morethan offered, and there is no doubt it is a sweet black and gold Steez A. On the other hand, th new Daiwa Coastal is a complete joke in my opinion. (I don't care what frame it's built on) At $250 for the new Coastal, I would be looking for a gently used OG Morethan instead for the same price or slightly more. The pinnicle currently for Daiwa would still be the Battler 1520 and a bonus with a HLC Deep Spool.jrk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:56 amAs stated, I do like this reel, but I'm not used to something so limited in line capacity and so small...pain in the a** to get my fingers on the spool adjustment behind the drag star as well as adjusting the mag dial, but it will cast I believe better than my previous Calais usage. Definitely more "twitchy" than my Coastal, but that is most likely due to it's intended design and ability to throw smaller lures.
If they produced a 200 sized version of this, I suspect it would be my perfect reel. And to clarify my expressed opinions...my happy place is hunting big reds on the shallow flats in open water. With this, as the water heats up and the summer starts getting late, these fish get spooky. This is where drama free distance is a requirement of mine. I'll use this Morethan for my large and smallmouth hunts, but if they ever made a larger size, I'd pick it up quickly.
Also, for those who actually use these in Salt, like you sir, don't be afraid to find and use a high quality Japanese 1.5 or 2 size PE Varivas Seabass is a great option. Just make sure you have your leader knot game on point especially if your going to a 30 or 40# leader with the small PE.
And KV Damn...when the wind get's blowing 25-30, grab a spinning rod!
So you feel like the new morethan is basically the same as the steez A just different color?
Thanks for the links. I already have the steez A but I've been wondering if I should have gone with the morethan. I think the added benefits on the morethan may not be that big of a deal for how and where I fish. Oh well, time to just get out and fish what I have and move on.Aquaftm45 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:15 pmWell, no..I was bieng a little facetious. The Morethan PE SV has more features, (some that are really important to people) you can see the differences here. If I had to pick between the two, I would go with the Morethan PE SV, (only if I had a gold accented rod..haha) I still hate the sideplate and dial on both reels..personal preference.chrisg_sdcf wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:54 pmAquaftm45 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 amSome of the points made here are a few of the reasons that I think the OG Morethan is a better overall reel for a lot of people, especially if you are actually using it for salt applications. (see page 1 rant) I recognize some of the benifits the new Morethan offered, and there is no doubt it is a sweet black and gold Steez A. On the other hand, th new Daiwa Coastal is a complete joke in my opinion. (I don't care what frame it's built on) At $250 for the new Coastal, I would be looking for a gently used OG Morethan instead for the same price or slightly more. The pinnicle currently for Daiwa would still be the Battler 1520 and a bonus with a HLC Deep Spool.jrk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:56 amAs stated, I do like this reel, but I'm not used to something so limited in line capacity and so small...pain in the a** to get my fingers on the spool adjustment behind the drag star as well as adjusting the mag dial, but it will cast I believe better than my previous Calais usage. Definitely more "twitchy" than my Coastal, but that is most likely due to it's intended design and ability to throw smaller lures.
If they produced a 200 sized version of this, I suspect it would be my perfect reel. And to clarify my expressed opinions...my happy place is hunting big reds on the shallow flats in open water. With this, as the water heats up and the summer starts getting late, these fish get spooky. This is where drama free distance is a requirement of mine. I'll use this Morethan for my large and smallmouth hunts, but if they ever made a larger size, I'd pick it up quickly.
Also, for those who actually use these in Salt, like you sir, don't be afraid to find and use a high quality Japanese 1.5 or 2 size PE Varivas Seabass is a great option. Just make sure you have your leader knot game on point especially if your going to a 30 or 40# leader with the small PE.
And KV Damn...when the wind get's blowing 25-30, grab a spinning rod!
So you feel like the new morethan is basically the same as the steez A just different color?
More brass, more CRRB's, more aluminum, faster level wind, same capacity spool but with different charactaristics, 100mm handle
https://daiwafishing.com.au/products/steez-a-tw
https://daiwafishing.com.au/collections ... than-pe-tw