2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by poisonokie » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:18 am

hoohoorjoo wrote: Palomar knot, moistened before setting the knot, drag set right, but it still broke on the hookset. Now its braid or good old mono like Sufix Siege. I did use mono with a Zillion PE Special and it didn't give me any problems.
That knot is your problem. You don't have to get all crazy with it like that stupid Shaw Grigsby knot you hear people talking about, but a Palomar or Clinch just won't cut it. In fact, I don't think the Palomar is all it's cracked up to be even with braid. I use a San Diego Jam for everything, moisten the hell out of it, and tighten it really smoothly and slowly. It's a *very* strong knot and easy to tie. For fluoro I do 9-10 wraps for 4#, 9 for 6#, 8 for 8-10#, 7-8 for 12#, 7 for 15#, and 5-6 for 20#. For braid I double it and use 1-3 fewer wraps. Works great! The only time I break off is on a snag, never on a fish or hook set. I have had it break on fluoro and mono when tightening the knot, but only because the line was abraded inside the knot somewhere, like from tooth marks near the hook. Sorry to veer verbose, I just feel like anyone who doesn't use fluoro at all is really missing out.

Also, I use 10# fluoro on my sv105 and it has a fast levelwind and it doesn't cause problems. It does have a non-disengaging levelwind and I usually do make sure it's synched up before I start my retrieve, so I'm sure that really helps keep the line from rubbing against itself and causing abrasions. It may be a different story with PE reels with completely unsychronized levelwinds. I'm psycho about using everything the way it was intended, so I'd never spool anything but braid on a PE reel, anyway.
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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Reservoir » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:09 pm

There goes my bank account... thanks for sharing.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Aquaftm45 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:35 pm

Polkfish1 wrote:
Aquaftm45 wrote:I've had to bite my tongue the last couple of hours as I have gazed down at my beloved Morthan PE SV 8.1R-TW and back up at the new "improved" version.

Aquaftm: I see only one solution here. You’re going to have to complete the set. :D
The only solution here is to wait until the current Morethan has a price drop and buy every one I can find.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Aquaftm45 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:16 pm

Someone needs to move this thread into the Enthusiest and Import Tackle sector. I'm getting cold sweats out here...

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by DirtyD64 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:31 pm

As far as the fluoro breaking... Nothing like that here. I set my drags pretty soft though, not much cover in my river fishing, nor am I fishing for big money. I defend fluorocarbon always, but honestly I can't get into it too much because the evidence isn't there. Hate that you had a bad experience, my fishing friends are about 50% almost exclusively fluoro, and the other 50% HATE IT.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by freelancer27 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:53 pm

What's the difference of this reel against the Steez A? What justifies the additional 100 USD in price?

Thanks for the info.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by LowRange » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:14 pm

freelancer27 wrote:What's the difference of this reel against the Steez A? What justifies the additional 100 USD in price?

Thanks for the info.
Brass gears. Black paint with gold accents. Some mill work on the frame and carbon fiber inlays. Steez A is kinda boring looking IMO and I have never been a fan of aluminum gears but I want that platform in an aluminum frame. This new Morethan offers everything I want out of this platform (except Magforce 3D) and matches the 17 Destroyer rods while doing it.

It's on my wish list.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by jvelth74 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:30 am

16 Steez SV TW 1016SV/1012SV weights 160g (Gear ratios 6.3 ... 8.1)

17 Steez A TW1016 weights 190 g (Gear ratios 5.3 ... 8.1)

19 Morethan PE TW 1000 weights 195 g (7.1 gears) / 205 g (8.6 gears)

7.1 Geared PE weights only 5 g more than Steez A. But 8.6 Geared PE weights 10 g more than 7.1 geared.. :roll:
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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by DirtyD64 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:22 am

jvelth74 wrote:16 Steez SV TW 1016SV/1012SV weights 160g (Gear ratios (6.3 ... 8.1)

17 Steez A TW1016 weights 190 g (Gear ratios 5.3 ... 8.1)

19 Morethan PE TW 1000 weights 195 g (7.1 gears) / 205 g (8.6 gears)

7.1 Geared PE weights only 5 g more than Steez A. But 8.6 Geared PE weights 10 g more than 7.1 geared.. :roll:
With only grams difference in weight, it makes me doubt the new Morethan has brass gears.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Hobie-Wan Kenobi » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:50 am

Real question...Are these Morethan gears gonna fit in the Steez TW? :-k
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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by jvelth74 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:11 pm

Maybe a silly thought, but could there be magnesium frame + brass gears?

No, it's aluminium:
super metallic (AL) frame, handle side plate, dial side set plate and housing.
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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by LowRange » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:18 pm

"Besides the body, both sides have also been aluminized to achieve extremely high rigidity." Daiwa states that both the sideplates and frame are aluminum but makes no direct reference to the gears being brass. I hope they are but the weight doesn't seem to add up.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Strewth » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:31 pm

LowRange wrote:
freelancer27 wrote:What's the difference of this reel against the Steez A? What justifies the additional 100 USD in price?

Thanks for the info.
Brass gears. Black paint with gold accents. Some mill work on the frame and carbon fiber inlays. Steez A is kinda boring looking IMO and I have never been a fan of aluminum gears but I want that platform in an aluminum frame. This new Morethan offers everything I want out of this platform (except Magforce 3D) and matches the 17 Destroyer rods while doing it.

It's on my wish list.
I've said it before and will say it again, the alloy gears in the Steez A are one of the smoothest in any reel and extremely durable. I have used mine on hundreds of large tropical fish (including 1m+ barramundi , queenfish, and threadfin salmon) and the gears are still as smooth as when I bought the reel. Put a ZPI NRC001-M spool in the "A" and it is a pure casting machine - the best baitcasting setup I have ever used. I now have 4 of them.

The alloy gears in my 13Met, on the other hand, were crap and always developed vibration after a few sessions of use. Substituting a brass drive gear from the Curado K fixed this design flaw permanently.

So your mileage may vary, depending on the reel. Not all alloy gear sets give poor performance, which I suspect has a lot to do with the nature of the alloy that is used.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by DirtyD64 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:55 pm

Strewth wrote:
LowRange wrote:
freelancer27 wrote:What's the difference of this reel against the Steez A? What justifies the additional 100 USD in price?

Thanks for the info.
Brass gears. Black paint with gold accents. Some mill work on the frame and carbon fiber inlays. Steez A is kinda boring looking IMO and I have never been a fan of aluminum gears but I want that platform in an aluminum frame. This new Morethan offers everything I want out of this platform (except Magforce 3D) and matches the 17 Destroyer rods while doing it.

It's on my wish list.
I've said it before and will say it again, the alloy gears in the Steez A are one of the smoothest in any reel and extremely durable. I have used mine on hundreds of large tropical fish (including 1m+ barramundi , queenfish, and threadfin salmon) and the gears are still as smooth as when I bought the reel. Put a ZPI NRC001-M spool in the "A" and it is a pure casting machine - the best baitcasting setup I have ever used. I now have 4 of them.

The alloy gears in my 13Met, on the other hand, were crap and always developed vibration after a few sessions of use. Substituting a brass drive gear from the Curado K fixed this design flaw permanently.

So your mileage may vary, depending on the reel. Not all alloy gear sets give poor performance, which I suspect has a lot to do with the nature of the alloy that is used.
Aluminum gears have been fine here too. Not very many big fish yet, but she's really, really smooth. Better than my brass geared ~$300 reels. Did you go straight to the ZPI M or try other spools? I'm on a Zillion SV TW spool for now, but really craving the purple ZPI M...

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by jvelth74 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:21 pm

What kind of inductor is in that ZPI NRC001-M spool? Is it fixed? Or that 'twisting' one Magforce Air?

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