2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by freelancer27 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:57 am

Any insights on the gears? Brass vs Alu?

I want to purchase a new reel for my heavy jig rod and I think I will be choosing between the 8.XX version of the 2019 Morethan and the Steez A.

Is it correct to say that the frame is the same between the two, the only difference are optics and a longer handle? Any differences in the spool?

Thanks.

Happy 2019!

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by DirtyD64 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:58 am

freelancer27 wrote:Any insights on the gears? Brass vs Alu?

I want to purchase a new reel for my heavy jig rod and I think I will be choosing between the 8.XX version of the 2019 Morethan and the Steez A.

Is it correct to say that the frame is the same between the two, the only difference are optics and a longer handle? Any differences in the spool?

Thanks.

Happy 2019!
What BARRAMANIAC said to me has to be true. Brass gears add a good chunk of weight, and these reels are just too close in weight to have different gear materials. I am willing to bet anything this Morethan TW is aluminum geared. The weight difference has to come from cosmetic/handle variations.
I still hope they introduce a "Zillion" version but I hear that the name might even be going away. The Steez A frame with brass gears and the current Zillion SV TW spool would be great. That way they could use the new Steez CT SV platform for flagship and convert the left over Steez A's to "Zillions"; just re badge them pre production and a few other tweaks. Kinda like the Curado/Chronarch debacle years ago, but in reverse.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by runmax08 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:16 am

This reel is built for sea bass or stripers? I..e 20 lbs of saltwater fish and reel weighs under 7.5 ounces. :roll:

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Polkfish1 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:51 pm

freelancer27 wrote:Any insights on the gears? Brass vs Alu?

I want to purchase a new reel for my heavy jig rod and I think I will be choosing between the 8.XX version of the 2019 Morethan and the Steez A.

Is it correct to say that the frame is the same between the two, the only difference are optics and a longer handle? Any differences in the spool?

Thanks.

Happy 2019!

Yes; spools are different. Mag seal is a difference I think. Maybe wrong. Also, hyper digigear may be a difference. Finally the retrieve ratios are different.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Polkfish1 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:01 pm

Correction: looks like A is also with mag seal bearings. I can’t find it, but might be a slight difference in the drag.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by LowRange » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:09 pm

Both sideplates are aluminum on the new Morethan.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by freelancer27 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:05 am

Polkfish1 wrote:
freelancer27 wrote:Any insights on the gears? Brass vs Alu?

I want to purchase a new reel for my heavy jig rod and I think I will be choosing between the 8.XX version of the 2019 Morethan and the Steez A.

Is it correct to say that the frame is the same between the two, the only difference are optics and a longer handle? Any differences in the spool?

Thanks.

Happy 2019!

Yes; spools are different. Mag seal is a difference I think. Maybe wrong. Also, hyper digigear may be a difference. Finally the retrieve ratios are different.

What is the difference in the spool? Weight, line capacity, sealings?

Thanks again!

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by DirtyD64 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:46 am

Not sure if I have seen a weight for the 2019 Morethan PE spool. I know I weighed the Steez A spool and it was 13 grams or so with bearing, pretty light spool. I switched it for the Zillion SV TW spool though and will eventually step up to a ZPI or G1 1012 SV.

The Morethan should have spool compatibility with all 1016 sized spools though. The Steez A has Magseal too, I just don't know if the Morethan has extra Magsealed bearings/spots.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by freelancer27 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:12 am

So, the Morethan's spool is the same as the Steez A? 120 yards of 14 pound mono?!

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by jvelth74 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:33 am

^ Hope not. Because if it is so, what's the difference between Steez A vs. new Morethan? Price tag and appearance with kevlar decals? (I suppose that there's no 2x speed level wind in new Morethan.)

If in Morethan is same spool than Steez A, only idea for that in my opinion is to take thick monofilament enough. Because it would take braided line more than needed. And in that scenario this reel will cost a lot of more than I like to pay.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Polkfish1 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:44 am

jvelth74 wrote:^ Hope not. Because if it is so, what's the difference between Steez A vs. new Morethan? Price tag and appearance with kevlar decals? (I suppose that there's no 2x speed level wind in new Morethan.)

If in Morethan is same spool than Steez A, only idea for that in my opinion is to take thick monofilament enough. Because it would take braided line more than needed. And in that scenario this reel will cost a lot of more than I like to pay.

It’s a 1000 PE tuned spool. I have very limited time with it. Seems to bomb a 1/4 oz is 110 junior. Don’t think that’s the case with the steez A spool, but never have had one of those. It’s fairly deep; at least 1016 deep. I think the above poster simply meant that it’s compatible with 34 mm spools, not that it’s the same.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by jvelth74 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:03 pm

Good to hear that there is a special spool in new Morethan. As it actually should be and as it has been in older Morethans.

Level wind speed is interesting case. Faster level wind than Steez (or sv tw Zillion) or not? My sv TW Zillion handles good any braided line. So I don't actually see need of faster level wind. And obviously faster level wind can shorten casts. And I have undersood that this (and older) Morethans should be casting machines.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by LowRange » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:28 pm

The color is enough to do me in. If I was in the market for a Destroyer 17 I would be looking right at this reel.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by Polkfish1 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:31 pm

jvelth74 wrote:Good to hear that there is a special spool in new Morethan. As it actually should be and as it has been in older Morethans.

Level wind speed is interesting case. Faster level wind than Steez (or sv tw Zillion) or not? My sv TW Zillion handles good any braided line. So I don't actually see need of faster level wind. And obviously faster level wind can shorten casts. And I have undersood that this (and older) Morethans should be casting machines.

I can care less if Daiwa sells a lot of these, but one thing to consider also. It’s the most solid feeling reel I’ve bought since og zillions. But, it’s fit in the palm is perfect. It feels considerably more solid than a steez sv tv, as I suppose one would expect. It’s a compact tank.

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Re: 2019 Daiwa Morethan PE 1000 TW

Post by freelancer27 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Sorry to be a pain in the butt, but how much line of a 14-16 pound fluro (0.35mm) would I be able to put on the spool?

Thanks.

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