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poisonokie wrote:If magnets can magically power things on their own, why are Teslas full of batteries? Why don't we eschew the use of exploding batteries in hoverboards and slap some neodymium? Why do speakers need speaker wire and voice coils?

Do you see coils of wire inside the Daiwa reel?

ShimanoFan wrote:

poisonokie wrote:You obviously didn't read either article. The faster the inductor spins, the more electrons, i.e current, are being exchanged between the stator and inductor.

Daiwa reels are not producing electricity.

Actually they are through the Lenz effect. There is a small current induced into the inductor of the spool as It spins within the magnetic field of the magnets. It is the magnetic field from this induced current that is interfering with the magnetic field of the magnets and it is this interaction between magnetic fields that produces the braking of the spool. There are some pretty cool videos out there that show the effect in action.

https://youtu.be/O9DaKP2PhL4

LowRange he is NOT going to watch that video.

Electricity and magnetism are not mutually exclusive. Ever. That's why they call it electromagnetism. Catch the portmanteau? Like spacetime?

The computer in a DC reel works exactly the same way as the lightbulb example above. They use coils instead of an aluminum inductor because of the additional capacitance needed to power said computer, which is probably why the spools are so heavy.

I will look at the video.

The video is useless here.
Daiwa KNOWS this which is why they went to moving inductors. Everything else has been a diversion.

What are you talking about? Last time I checked I couldn't pick up a piece of aluminum with a refrigerator magnet. And "free floating" e-'s are what make a metal a metal.

And how does Magforce Z work? Why would they have a spring loaded inductor which changes position based on the centripetal force (which is related to the RPM of the spool) acting on it if it doesn't increase the braking effect? Why call it an inductor? Why use an inductor at all?

And what powers the gauge wired to the coil in the video if it isn't electric current? Do you have a source for Unicorn Farts, because I could use some.

Wow! Not sure if this is a good debate or troll of the year.....

7 pages worth of whatever this is.

I hope Daiwa brings a Smaller Z like most die hard fans.

Back on track:

LowRange wrote:Even on a fixed inductor the induced flux does increase and decrease throughout the cast due to spool speed alone

No.

The gauge moves from an increase in electrical potential caused by the induction of the electromagnetic field moving across the coil. That's why it drops to zero when the magnet (or coil, see: Special Relativity, Einstein, Albert) and reads higher as the velocity of the magnetic field increases relative to the coil. That's exactly how Magforce, DC, direct drive turntables, alternators, generators, microwaves, railguns, and every single other electrical device is ultimately powered. I'm just trying to help you out, man. Physics is fun.

ShimanoFan wrote:Back on track:

LowRange wrote:Even on a fixed inductor the induced flux does increase and decrease throughout the cast due to spool speed alone

I say no it can not. The strength of the magnets remains the same. This is what we are discussing and debating. Nothing else.


All I asked was for him to explain how the magnetic strength of the magnets changes. Not the Lenz effect.

He said the induced flux changes.

From where does the flux come from? And how does it change? We are getting off topic here.

FROM THE ROTATION OF THE INDUCTOR THROUGH THE ELCTROMAGENTIC FIELD INHERENT TO THE PERMANENT MAGNETS IN THE SET PLATE! The mechanical, kinetic energy of the spool is transferred, via the electromagnetic force, to the magnets, creating an electromagnetic potential which increases the magnetic flux, thereby slowing the rotation of the spool. The spool speed is the variable here, and therefore the electromagnetic effect is variable.

Sorry, guys, we should just start over with a new thread. I give up.

This is why I stayed out of the classroom! So I don't wind up like Professor Pete did! But he got away with it. I probably would not. The miamimigget would

Sorry all, I had to edit that last one. I was rage typing and felt it needed clarification. I have no idea why I'm even bothering. Now I'm done.

Oh, it's more than obvious that you haven't been around a classroom in a looooooong time.

Rage typing! Love it!

I'll remember that one!

I also like the term keyboard cowboy...