What happen to the Z hype?

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby spookybaits » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:39 am

Johnny A wrote:
papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


Ehh, ~~. Z2020 is a very good non-bass reel but a forced square peg bass reel.

Hence why everyone wants a Z1016/smaller bass sized version

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby 1nutinthewater » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:08 am

Well so what happen to all the hype about the Concept Z??
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Teal101 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:26 pm

Johnny A wrote:
papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


Ehh, ~~. Z2020 is a very good non-bass reel but a forced square peg bass reel.


It's a bit big and heavy for standard duty applications, but when it comes to swimbaits there isn't a better lowpro out there.
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Johnny A » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm

Teal101 wrote:
Johnny A wrote:
papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


Ehh, ~~. Z2020 is a very good non-bass reel but a forced square peg bass reel.


It's a bit big and heavy for standard duty applications, but when it comes to swimbaits there isn't a better lowpro out there.


TD-Z Big Bait Special was another one that was similar to Z2020. Nice reel but a tough fit.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby DirtyD64 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:03 am

1nutinthewater wrote:Well so what happen to all the hype about the Concept Z??


Concerning the Concept Z, I think the hype died down because none of it was true. It DIDN'T cast 20 yards further than any other reel, it didn't cast super light lures like 1/8 a long ways, and it was basically a cookie cutter version of any other 13 reel around $200 with bushings instead of bearings. There were also some noise issues which was odd because it was claimed to be silent, and they also tend to get a lot of reviews where the reel is mentioned to be very loose and rattling sounding.

I don't think they are terrible reels, just maybe a little more engineering should go in or a few other extras to justify the price. I do think the attempt at technology (eliminating a problem spot like bearings) improvement is GREAT for the market. They made a bushing that will never rust and never seize up yet still casts within range of bearings. I personally won't be able to bring myself to try a 13 until I get an issue resolved from a gift reel I got that went out extremely fast, but I do respect their efforts to bring something new.

It's not hate on a non Shimano/Daiwa company either, the T-wing didn't make a huge difference, and hell it is even on the Steez now. I am one that is neutral/likes the T-wing a bit, but from a heavy user of those products, I would rather have SV 1000 times over before the T-wing tech. Generally that's why hype is called hype, because that is all it is.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby johnD » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:05 am

but , they spent 18 years and 50 million dollars developing that czb bushing...

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Cracker » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:28 am

Another promoted lie (by sponsored youtubers and pro's) in fishing industry.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby MardukFIN » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:27 pm

papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


+1 8-)
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby zodiak311 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:42 am

Teal101 wrote:
Johnny A wrote:
papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


Ehh, ~~. Z2020 is a very good non-bass reel but a forced square peg bass reel.


It's a bit big and heavy for standard duty applications, but when it comes to swimbaits there isn't a better lowpro out there.

X2 And an awesome A rig reel as well.
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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby papabassin » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:01 am

To the OP:

I'll try and give my honest answer here as I was sincerely intrigued by this new reel with "never before utilized groundbreaking technology that casts to the moon and is perfectly silent which took many years to perfect." -- or something along those lines...

For me, it was the price tag...When I found out that it was $200, I was disappointed. As someone who's fished the Concept C which utilizes ball bearings and is priced at $240, why would I think something on the same platform with an orange paint job priced $40 less is going to blow my mind or be better than the Concept C. I don't know, I think besides not being Daiwa/Shimano...the price tag just killed it for me.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Johnny A » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:05 am

zodiak311 wrote:
Teal101 wrote:
Johnny A wrote:
papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


Ehh, ~~. Z2020 is a very good non-bass reel but a forced square peg bass reel.


It's a bit big and heavy for standard duty applications, but when it comes to swimbaits there isn't a better lowpro out there.

X2 And an awesome A rig reel as well.


It's funny you should bring up swimbaits for the Z2020. I'm checking out smaller swimbaits, Gancraft 148, LimberLamber

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby mark poulson » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:24 am

I've been fishing a 7/1 Concept Z reel for two months now. I have it spooled with 65lb braid, and it's on a 7'6" punch rod.
It is smooth and quiet, and a pleasure to use. I balanced the rod just at the front of the spool, and it's effortless to pitch/punch.
I'm 70, so I don't punch for hours at a time anymore, but I can do it in half hour stretches with very little fatigue.
The reel casts smoothly, and it has a great drag, so getting the fish back out of the mats is no problem.
I really like having a 6.5 oz reel that I can punch with.
I typically don't ever pay full price for a reel, and seldom spend more than $120, but I was intrigued by the sleeve bearing concept, so, with the full price of $199, I splurged and bought one.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another, but I'll wait until the price drops this time. ;)

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby tacklejunkie2 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:55 am

To the original post:

My main reason for losing interest is the lack gear of ratio's being offered for lefty's. If you're not interested in a high speed reel, oh well. I guess 13 Fishing wanted to see how the Z was going to be received before they offered more options for lefty's.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby Normware » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:13 am

I tried one last week. In the parking lot at my local crack er... tackle dealer.

It cast quite well. The sound was different - not louder or quieter - but different. I made about a dozen casts with it. The distance was good.

My favourite colour is orange so that did not dissuade me. My main issue with it is the price : $260.00. When I can get a proven reel for the same or less why take a chance on a reel that does not have a proven track record.

If it was in the 150- 175 price range then I would buy one.

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Re: What happen to the Z hype?

Postby spookybaits » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:01 pm

Johnny A wrote:
zodiak311 wrote:
Teal101 wrote:
Johnny A wrote:
papabassin wrote:Fish the Z2020 & you'll know why people want a Z1016 8-)


Ehh, ~~. Z2020 is a very good non-bass reel but a forced square peg bass reel.


It's a bit big and heavy for standard duty applications, but when it comes to swimbaits there isn't a better lowpro out there.

X2 And an awesome A rig reel as well.


It's funny you should bring up swimbaits for the Z2020. I'm checking out smaller swimbaits, Gancraft 148, LimberLamber


It's exceptional for smaller swimbaits. I had a problem with mine casting baits over 3oz, it would trip the clutch. Could've just got one made on Friday though.

For casting anything under 3oz, or over 3oz using lob/underhand casts and its golden. That reel shines with baits 3/4-3oz.


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