Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby LowRange » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:29 am

PikeRoadBassn wrote:
spookybaits wrote:Right on Brian, glad you got fixed up!
So what's your thoughts on this reel(besides the pinion issue) after having it in hand and digging through it?


I think it is a beautiful and functional reel. Simplistic in nature really. It uses the Steez SV TW style cam plate, which I found surprising given the lack of T Wing. The Micro gearing is very nice. It has a very fluid connected feel. The reel is built to be tough yet refined, and I think Daiwa hit it square on the head with this one.


When you had the reel apart did you see anything that would indicate that the new Ryoga gears will fit the old Ryoga?

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby BARRAMANIAC » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:12 am

Just from pictures this reel is based on the Catalina BJ , Millionaire Basara body, with a few alterations with no resemblance to the original ryoga. The old Ryoga was tried and proven on PNG black Bass and Asian Giant Snakehead, will wait for reviews as to how well micro gears hold up.

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby Rasputin » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:24 am

What do you think BARRAMANIAC. The larger one for trolling for barras?

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby BARRAMANIAC » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:45 am

Rasputin wrote:What do you think BARRAMANIAC. The larger one for trolling for barras?


I am not sold on the micro gears. I am a fitter machinist by trade and deal with industrial gearboxes. Having smaller profile gears with small contact area isn't good for high power. And ryoga has always been a power reel. My 1016H has over 10kg of drag and the gears handle it no problems. Used to greet effect on fingermark (golden snapper) . But I am not sure the new ryoga could handle the souped up drag without stripping gear teeth. Looks great but I am not sure. I am using Steez A without issues on Barra and Z200 for big baits.

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby PikeRoadBassn » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:20 am

LowRange wrote:
PikeRoadBassn wrote:
spookybaits wrote:Right on Brian, glad you got fixed up!
So what's your thoughts on this reel(besides the pinion issue) after having it in hand and digging through it?


I think it is a beautiful and functional reel. Simplistic in nature really. It uses the Steez SV TW style cam plate, which I found surprising given the lack of T Wing. The Micro gearing is very nice. It has a very fluid connected feel. The reel is built to be tough yet refined, and I think Daiwa hit it square on the head with this one.


When you had the reel apart did you see anything that would indicate that the new Ryoga gears will fit the old Ryoga?


I wasn't exactly looking for it, but given the cam configuration, and difference in drive shaft, I would say not.

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby BARRAMANIAC » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:29 am

PikeRoadBassn wrote:
LowRange wrote:
PikeRoadBassn wrote:
spookybaits wrote:Right on Brian, glad you got fixed up!
So what's your thoughts on this reel(besides the pinion issue) after having it in hand and digging through it?


I think it is a beautiful and functional reel. Simplistic in nature really. It uses the Steez SV TW style cam plate, which I found surprising given the lack of T Wing. The Micro gearing is very nice. It has a very fluid connected feel. The reel is built to be tough yet refined, and I think Daiwa hit it square on the head with this one.


When you had the reel apart did you see anything that would indicate that the new Ryoga gears will fit the old Ryoga?


I wasn't exactly looking for it, but given the cam configuration, and difference in drive shaft, I would say not.


I have fitted catalina BJ gears to a 1016 ryoga before looking for a high speed gear for the ryoga. And as the new ryoga is the sake body I believe it will be possible

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby spookybaits » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:16 pm

BARRAMANIAC wrote:
Rasputin wrote:What do you think BARRAMANIAC. The larger one for trolling for barras?


I am not sold on the micro gears. I am a fitter machinist by trade and deal with industrial gearboxes. Having smaller profile gears with small contact area isn't good for high power. And ryoga has always been a power reel. My 1016H has over 10kg of drag and the gears handle it no problems. Used to greet effect on fingermark (golden snapper) . But I am not sure the new ryoga could handle the souped up drag without stripping gear teeth. Looks great but I am not sure. I am using Steez A without issues on Barra and Z200 for big baits.


But in theory, wouldn't the perceived structural integrity weakness(es) of the smaller sized 'micro' gears be offset by their decreased length & closer approximation to each other?

I.e. Visualizing it like... Weight supported by many shorter pillars vs fewer, taller pillars. Shorter pillars are stronger/sturdier against weight & resistance from above as well as the sides(i.e. Vertical & horizontal force). Correct?

Photo of new gears compared to older model pluton/ryoga gears:
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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby Rasputin » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:27 am

BARRAMANIAC wrote:
Rasputin wrote:What do you think BARRAMANIAC. The larger one for trolling for barras?


I am not sold on the micro gears. I am a fitter machinist by trade and deal with industrial gearboxes. Having smaller profile gears with small contact area isn't good for high power. And ryoga has always been a power reel. My 1016H has over 10kg of drag and the gears handle it no problems. Used to greet effect on fingermark (golden snapper) . But I am not sure the new ryoga could handle the souped up drag without stripping gear teeth. Looks great but I am not sure. I am using Steez A without issues on Barra and Z200 for big baits.


I have had no problems so far with my Conquest 201 hauling in large fish. I might take the hit and try one out.

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby fishingkat » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:33 am

Has anyone tried fitting the new zpi spools or sv spools in the new ryoga? Does it fit?

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Re: Reviews out on new 2018 Ryoga?

Postby spookybaits » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:55 pm

Ryoga (1016 & 1520) deep cranking in Mexico- https://youtu.be/OPcafhiCuKw


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