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Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:33 pm
by chreim20
DirtyD64 wrote:
chreim20 wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:I think the Bantam is great, but if they are removing key bearings, and not giving any real light lure casting advantages, I don't see why (for me at least) the Chronarch MGL wouldn't be better. The 3 biggest bass I have ever caught have been on a Stradic Ci4+FA (2 fish) and a junker tiny 500 size Mitchell reel. The Stradic didn't flex a bit and still fishes like a champ, the Mitchell sits in my dad's garage and he beats on it all the time, still catching tons of fish.

I am all for a tough metal frame that helps durability and maintain gear smoothness, but it depends on what features I am giving up to justify an $70 increase in price. If the bearing count is down and the spool isn't much lighter, I'm gonna lose a good chunk of interest in the Bantam MGL and either target a JDM Metanium or Chronarch MGL XG... Also does the Bantam get the shrimpy 84mm handle or at least a 90???
Key bearings? My Shimano Core has 5 bearings and it's the reel I enjoy fishing the most. I'm sure the reel will be just fine and if one less bearing bothers you, you might be OCD :lol:
I am selectively... I mean I know from engineering that a solid metal frame (not to mention an almost 8oz one) should hold more than enough support for the AR bearing. I guess my OCD kicks in when the Curado K ($180) has a feature that a $350 MIGHT not. My old Tatula R isn't perfect by any means, but I still fish with it like crazy and catch plenty. I guess the thought of paying that much for a reel makes me OCD. Probably be wiser for me to just buy a JDM Metanium. Just all that aluminum gear buzzing and no warranty talk scares me.
My Bantam MGL should be here soon, I'll take a picture of the schematics if that would help you out with your OCD, lol \:D/

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:47 pm
by BRONZEBACK32
chreim20 wrote:
My Bantam MGL should be here soon, I'll take a picture of the schematics if that would help you out with your OCD, lol \:D/
Yes please

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:04 pm
by DirtyD64
BRONZEBACK32 wrote:
chreim20 wrote:
My Bantam MGL should be here soon, I'll take a picture of the schematics if that would help you out with your OCD, lol \:D/
Yes please
Yes please times 2

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:53 am
by chreim20
Will do, when it gets here I'll post an image on this thread.

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:37 am
by Kurt L
DirtyD64 wrote:
chreim20 wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:I think the Bantam is great, but if they are removing key bearings, and not giving any real light lure casting advantages, I don't see why (for me at least) the Chronarch MGL wouldn't be better. The 3 biggest bass I have ever caught have been on a Stradic Ci4+FA (2 fish) and a junker tiny 500 size Mitchell reel. The Stradic didn't flex a bit and still fishes like a champ, the Mitchell sits in my dad's garage and he beats on it all the time, still catching tons of fish.

I am all for a tough metal frame that helps durability and maintain gear smoothness, but it depends on what features I am giving up to justify an $70 increase in price. If the bearing count is down and the spool isn't much lighter, I'm gonna lose a good chunk of interest in the Bantam MGL and either target a JDM Metanium or Chronarch MGL XG... Also does the Bantam get the shrimpy 84mm handle or at least a 90???
Key bearings? My Shimano Core has 5 bearings and it's the reel I enjoy fishing the most. I'm sure the reel will be just fine and if one less bearing bothers you, you might be OCD :lol:
I am selectively... I mean I know from engineering that a solid metal frame (not to mention an almost 8oz one) should hold more than enough support for the AR bearing. I guess my OCD kicks in when the Curado K ($180) has a feature that a $350 MIGHT not. My old Tatula R isn't perfect by any means, but I still fish with it like crazy and catch plenty. I guess the thought of paying that much for a reel makes me OCD. Probably be wiser for me to just buy a JDM Metanium. Just all that aluminum gear buzzing and no warranty talk scares me.
I went JDM with my Met MGL and got a TURD!, It was so rough, just garbage but Bantam helped me out and for a $20. fee Shimano USA repaired it! so I'm totally on board with the Met. If it develops the "buzz" its only $23. for the Curado Brass drive gear. I switched both of my mine and they are smoooth smooooth now!

I was drooling on myself to get the Bantam but what will I get over the Met. after the upgrade? more weight? I will get a Bantam at some point but I'm not in a hurry at all anymore.

Kurt

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:49 pm
by lifeofRiley
I have a met MGL. It's a fine reel. I would take the bantam MGL over a met any day of the week. All aluminum reel is the way to go.

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:55 pm
by Kurt L
lifeofRiley wrote:I have a met MGL. It's a fine reel. I would take the bantam MGL over a met any day of the week. All aluminum reel is the way to go.
Why? I have caught a whole lot of Salmon on two different Metaniums and they have never skipped a beat and are literaly still like new, I have lots of Aluminum reels as well Luna's etc. they have not performed any better for my use! I don't think many people have had a chance to put there hands on the Bantam yet to even know if they will like them yet. I will own one soon but I have a Steez SV (Magnesium frame) to shake down first. 8-[

Kurt

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:17 pm
by arrowslinger1
Ok from pics I found on Instagram - it does have the larger opening line guide like the met.
Lots of opinions on this thread...

The metainium mgl in my opinion is a great lighter bait (up to 1/2 oz) type finesse reel. It is light, smooth, zero complaints- it does have the ci4 material palm side plate.
The bantam mgls being all aluminum (like the conquest) simply will be a tougher reel. More for 1/2 and above in my opinion - I know the metainium will certainly handle it fine- but if u really wanna winch on something the all aluminum and brass gears is where it’s at. And I know the bantam will also handle lighter duties - but I personally like light reels for light baits (ald,met)
I use the chronarch mgls for my jigs (even tho they are a composit reel) because they have brass gears and are light enough to pair with my nrx’s

I plan to use the bantam mgl on a hv 7’5 or bigger rod for swimbaits and a rig.
The curado K works great- just like to try new gear.

Mainly just looking for the schematic to answer a few more question =D> \:D/

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:38 pm
by Slazmo
VinnyOA wrote:Lol at all the peeps saying the aluminium frame on the bantam is better for salmon that the magnesium frame on the met. So funny either aluminium or magnesium will handle big game fish easily,the only difference is weight.
And corrosion susceptibility - i know which one I'd rather use.

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:18 am
by DirtyD64
arrowslinger1 wrote:Ok from pics I found on Instagram - it does have the larger opening line guide like the met.
Lots of opinions on this thread...

The metainium mgl in my opinion is a great lighter bait (up to 1/2 oz) type finesse reel. It is light, smooth, zero complaints- it does have the ci4 material palm side plate.
The bantam mgls being all aluminum (like the conquest) simply will be a tougher reel. More for 1/2 and above in my opinion - I know the metainium will certainly handle it fine- but if u really wanna winch on something the all aluminum and brass gears is where it’s at. And I know the bantam will also handle lighter duties - but I personally like light reels for light baits (ald,met)
I use the chronarch mgls for my jigs (even tho they are a composit reel) because they have brass gears and are light enough to pair with my nrx’s

I plan to use the bantam mgl on a hv 7’5 or bigger rod for swimbaits and a rig.
The curado K works great- just like to try new gear.

Mainly just looking for the schematic to answer a few more question =D> \:D/

I watched a TW product video not long ago where the 2 fisherman (Linter and someone else) were slinging A-Rigs with Chronarch MGL's. Along with using other large baits and like 65lb braid the reels seemed to handle it fine. I had a friend who threw 20lb fluoro on a Ci4+ Chronarch and tossed wayyyy to big of lures with it... For some reason he stopped liking his, but it took the abuse just fine.

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 am
by lifeofRiley
Kurt L wrote:
lifeofRiley wrote:I have a met MGL. It's a fine reel. I would take the bantam MGL over a met any day of the week. All aluminum reel is the way to go.
Why? I have caught a whole lot of Salmon on two different Metaniums and they have never skipped a beat and are literaly still like new, I have lots of Aluminum reels as well Luna's etc. they have not performed any better for my use! I don't think many people have had a chance to put there hands on the Bantam yet to even know if they will like them yet. I will own one soon but I have a Steez SV (Magnesium frame) to shake down first. 8-[

Kurt
Yeah, the metaniums really are a good reel. And I'm sure they can handle large fish with ease. To me there's something about an all aluminum reel. I think aluminum is denser and helps to deaden vibrations inside the reel, so that I can feel what's happening with my lure better. The Chronarch D is an all time favorite of many and it's all aluminum. The Bantam MGL looks similar in shape to the curado K, and I have had a number of good friends and good fisherman rave about that reel. And the fact that it comes with brass gears, and no swap is required, makes it all the better. I haven't seen the reel yet, but if it's everything that it could be, Katie bar the door!!!

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:01 am
by y2k88
Interesting size comparison to the met mgl. Didn't realise it was smaller?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sNrRdwPNg
(don't let the background tune drive you crazy)

Image

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:34 am
by DirtyD64
Interesting videos, could almost see the schematic on the one you posted. I want to know about that dang bearing so bad. Just really, really hope it has 2 on the main shaft but no idea why that bothers me so bad.

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:06 pm
by Winstondry
Which of you TT’ers recently picked one up from the auction site. It looks like there are a couple sellers that have them for a pretty decent price.

Re: Bantam MGL Who has their hands on one?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:53 pm
by chreim20
Winstondry wrote:Which of you TT’ers recently picked one up from the auction site. It looks like there are a couple sellers that have them for a pretty decent price.
I will have mine in hand in a couple days!