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Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:39 am
by Larsey
Hello!

My question is as stated in the title...
I`m fishing mainly saltwater, and want a daiwa with the old style
oval lineguide, and 34mm spool.

Larsey.

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:34 pm
by humph005
I believe the closest would be the original style Zillions but they have the bigger sized spool than the TD-Z’s though...

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:57 am
by Big-Bass
SV103H or SV103XS reels...

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:11 am
by LgMouthGambler
Big-Bass wrote:SV103H or SV103XS reels...
This

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:28 am
by Teal101
Big-Bass wrote:SV103H or SV103XS reels...
Correct. Only thing on the same frame style thats saltwater safe and has a 34mm spool. The gear side plate is different between a Zillion and TD-Z though so they arent exact in hand.

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:01 am
by hoohoorjoo
Teal101 wrote:
Big-Bass wrote:SV103H or SV103XS reels...
Correct. Only thing on the same frame style thats saltwater safe and has a 34mm spool. The gear side plate is different between a Zillion and TD-Z though so they arent exact in hand.
Actually, I have swapped a 100M sideplate and OG Zillion sideplate between reels and both reels worked fine. And you can swap the magnet guts from a TDZ 103 sideplate onto a Zillion sideplate and it will fit back on the TDZ 103. Not sure about the SV103, but I was under the impression that overall outer dimensions were exactly the same as the OG Zillion.....

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:18 am
by Larsey
OK.
Intresting that it is possible to swap magnet brake parts!

I have been thinking about the sv103, but i believe this has magnet brake
for sv spool, and therefore a very strong magnetic field...

I want a weaker mag brake profile, so i can use much more of the scale for
fine tuning!

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:48 am
by hoohoorjoo
The TDZ 100M is discontinued and getting hard to find. I dont think Daiwa supports the platform anymore, so parts will likely be difficult to source. I actually think I still have a magnet assembly from a 100M in my parts stash.

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:51 am
by Larsey
Found both the 100M and big bait special listed on plat.
The big bait special maybe have even weaker magnetic profile
due to fixed conductor?

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:20 pm
by Rippin-lips
The SV103 uses a 34mm spool so you have a ton of options for a less braked spool. The inductor on the 103 spool is longer than a lot of other sv spools. That’s what makes the reel heavily braked. It’s a different reel with the zillion sv spool, or a Steez sv 105 spool. You could use an R+ spool or 1016 if you wanted distance.

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:35 pm
by Teal101
hoohoorjoo wrote:
Teal101 wrote:
Big-Bass wrote:SV103H or SV103XS reels...
Correct. Only thing on the same frame style thats saltwater safe and has a 34mm spool. The gear side plate is different between a Zillion and TD-Z though so they arent exact in hand.
Actually, I have swapped a 100M sideplate and OG Zillion sideplate between reels and both reels worked fine. And you can swap the magnet guts from a TDZ 103 sideplate onto a Zillion sideplate and it will fit back on the TDZ 103. Not sure about the SV103, but I was under the impression that overall outer dimensions were exactly the same as the OG Zillion.....
Gear side or palm side? Palm side is identical and swaps without issue. A Zillion gear side plate will not fit a 34mm TD-Z frame. Alignment pins and screw hole positions are different. I havent tried it with a 100M. The SV103 palm side plate will swap with the above mentioned as well. I believe the SV103 gear side plate would swap with a Zillion sideplate, havent tried it though.

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:06 pm
by hoohoorjoo
Soory, I meant the palm side plate. Gear side is a no-go between the TDZ and OG Zillion, as the main gear(and gear box) is larger on the Zillion.

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:39 am
by goldrod
Rippin-lips wrote:The SV103 uses a 34mm spool so you have a ton of options for a less braked spool. The inductor on the 103 spool is longer than a lot of other sv spools. That’s what makes the reel heavily braked. It’s a different reel with the zillion sv spool, or a Steez sv 105 spool. You could use an R+ spool or 1016 if you wanted distance.

i would definitely suggest the 1016 spool in the sv103h or xs, it’s like a different animal

Re: Any non magnesium td-z/x models?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:34 am
by Larsey
Today i have a zillion sv tw with the g1 1012 spool,
and i think the mag profile is too strong on this reel.
It goes from too little brake on 2, to too much on 3

I also have an alpha sv, and with this i have much more
adjustability, i use mag settings around half way up the scale.

Thats why i want weaker magnets, the conductor size is not enough
to reduse the mag profile as much as i want.