reason162 wrote:ScoobyDoo wrote:With 18 grams 250' (video up tomorrow)
with 2 ounces 375' (9'6 black hole 8lb braid 50lb shocker)....(only brought a 100 yard tape with me.)
Were you able to cast a few different lures like someone else suggested earlier in the thread?
Watched that video...the audio is crystal clear
Yeah. I thought I posted the results here. But I guess my browser hung up or something.
This was the gist of what I typed..it was kinda long winded.
Basically Comparing it to a reel that consisted of 3 different reels. Kast king, Shishamo, and Favorite white bird.
The 18 gram lead went 258 (but it took a few casts to head up the oil and bearings) tried to push it and broke off which was the end of that. Had I just focused on technique I bet I could have hit 280.
Now that reel I had to use a setting of 8 out of 10 and it was still squirrely. 10 out of 10 wasn't tame.
Where as with the 1 setting was tame
The lack of warm up time is a nice plus for the Nzb busings. Start to finish very consistent. Only time you get that consistency is in dry lubed or dry bearings.
Switching to a megabass. I backlashed a dozen and a half times on the franken reel no matter the setting.
The max brake on that reel is like setting a daiwa mag z set to 1 or 2
Then put on some 30lb braid instead of the 8 and blew that up too. And gave up.
I"m not a big 110 fan I like baits that have more of a built in kick vs roll. And they dive a little deep so i shave the lips down. When I cast them using this setup I overcast them and the weak braking this reel doesn't quell the spiraling. 115' was the best i could get and i had to thumb slap my spool to get it straight.
The Z was getting out to 130 (have to check the tape ) with the brake setting at 3 and 4
MB 110's are like SP minnows where if you over cast them they don't fly like a dart they cork screw. Which a little extra braking seems to tame.
Throwing a 3/8 revenge jig on the franken reel was the same....backlash until your hearts content. 100' or so and thazzit due to heavy thumbing.
The Z hit 150 (again gotta check the tape) EDIT 125 not 150
Comparing it to the steez.
The concept went tit for tat with lures. Which is why I don't think casting comparisons are really important pertaining to baitcasters and lures. Just interesting to see how they behave.
I wish i brought a shadow rap shad since they throw much further and more consistently. And distances of 180 if i remember correctly are easy. As they lay on their side and just go...occasionally hitting what looks like an up draft and keep going.
So the Z is a good to very good and very consistent caster. And it's brake range is fairly wide and accomodating. And like i've said in the past. 90% of baitcasters will cast within 10% of others. It's all about how low you can go in braking, how much oil you use (oil is more likely to slow a reel than speed one up due to hydraulic braking...ask any distance caster), the lure and technique.
But it's very noisy. Brake buzz and spool chatter. When throwing low rpm lures like jigs. I get the sensation like the spool shaft is bouncing around on the inner race of the bushings/ bearings.
The retrieve on the 40$ 40$ 80$ mish mosh of reels frankenreel was noticeably less rickety. WHich was sad because it's a joke. I mean..who puts 12 ball bearings in the handle knobs. It's casting near silent.
I also noticed the line lay was better on the frankenreel. NO valleys at the spool edges at all.
The steez....well...love daiwa or hate em. It's a rock solid reel. Silent on the retrieve no slop. And casts are near silent with the exception of a slight "tink" when the rotor goes back into place at spool stop. Line lay had slight valleys on the side.
If I didn't break off that weight I would have thrown the steez. But I'd guess i'd get it down to 2 and hit 260. But down that low with an over packed spool it gets finnacky.
Set the brakes to anything above 5 and it's a kitten.
If they can tighten it up...i'd bet it'd be spectacular. Gonna either return it or at the very least exchange it.