Real Question
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:14 am
Anyone else notice the lack of quality lower geared (5:3, 5:4) reels available? Seems like there are very few options on the market with the HS reel trend.
You can still find used OG Zillions on ebay and elsewhere. You can buy any ratio and put in 4.9 gears from the Tackle Trap. One of my Daiwa staffer friends is buying up the 4.9 OG Zillions because he deep cranks a ton, and he still prefers them. I like the 5.5 ratio a little better.medicpelle wrote:I love the wider spools and lower gear ratio for all my cranking with the occasional exception of square bills. I have four gen 1 winches that I'm needing to replace. They have held up pretty well through the years but they are about worn out. I seen the new gen 4's came out but I haven't heard much on them yet. Being a Diawa guy I like the old zillions, wish I had a few of those in the closet.
Wonder what the IPT was on the 4.9 Zillions... my gen 3 revo winch (sold) recovered like 22 inches and it was just too slow...toddmc wrote:You can still find used OG Zillions on ebay and elsewhere. You can buy any ratio and put in 4.9 gears from the Tackle Trap. One of my Daiwa staffer friends is buying up the 4.9 OG Zillions because he deep cranks a ton, and he still prefers them. I like the 5.5 ratio a little better.medicpelle wrote:I love the wider spools and lower gear ratio for all my cranking with the occasional exception of square bills. I have four gen 1 winches that I'm needing to replace. They have held up pretty well through the years but they are about worn out. I seen the new gen 4's came out but I haven't heard much on them yet. Being a Diawa guy I like the old zillions, wish I had a few of those in the closet.
Check this out:DirtyD64 wrote:Yes, it is a definite new trend. I wish I had picked up a 5.5 Zillion TWS when they were blow out cheap (like $125) because the had such a big wide spool the IPT was like 24" which is still fast enough for me to fish spinnerbaits and chatterbaits. On the other hand, reels are all so well built now, I feel like a slow speed is useless because a 6 speed is just as strong, durable, and torque capable. Pretty much now, a 6 speed is the new slow speed/reaction bait reel speed, and a 7 speed is the new all purpose. Anything higher than that is now considered "fast" and I am assuming whether it is beneficial or not, the companies are following suit.
It seems that the more expensive you go, the harder slower speed (under 6) reels are to find. Abu still offers a $200 5 gear and a $100 5 gear, Daiwa sells the Tatula CT (non type R) in a 5. Not sure about the others... Only expensive reel I saw on TW that was a 5 speed is a $600 Antares and I'm sure once that model is gone off the site it won't have a replacement in that speed.
Black Friday coming up, get 15% additional off(subject to change). But they may be sold out if you wait, check inventory often.ccass wrote:Check this out:DirtyD64 wrote:Yes, it is a definite new trend. I wish I had picked up a 5.5 Zillion TWS when they were blow out cheap (like $125) because the had such a big wide spool the IPT was like 24" which is still fast enough for me to fish spinnerbaits and chatterbaits. On the other hand, reels are all so well built now, I feel like a slow speed is useless because a 6 speed is just as strong, durable, and torque capable. Pretty much now, a 6 speed is the new slow speed/reaction bait reel speed, and a 7 speed is the new all purpose. Anything higher than that is now considered "fast" and I am assuming whether it is beneficial or not, the companies are following suit.
It seems that the more expensive you go, the harder slower speed (under 6) reels are to find. Abu still offers a $200 5 gear and a $100 5 gear, Daiwa sells the Tatula CT (non type R) in a 5. Not sure about the others... Only expensive reel I saw on TW that was a 5 speed is a $600 Antares and I'm sure once that model is gone off the site it won't have a replacement in that speed.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_JD ... e-JDF.html
I have only had the 9.1 JDM Zillion TWS. Still solid as ever and smooth. At 180, it's a steal. The spool in the JDM is better than the USDM (idk how much).