Concept Z bearings

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Concept Z bearings

Postby mark poulson » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:46 am

If these "bearings" are legit, do the Concept bearing sizes match those from other manufacturers, so they can be swapped out?

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby DaisyZillion » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:21 am

Not sure anyone but the manufacturer knows at this stage mate, here's hoping that a) they're the goods and b)they come in standard metric sizes to suit other reels.

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby mark poulson » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:51 am

DaisyZillion wrote:Not sure anyone but the manufacturer knows at this stage mate, here's hoping that a) they're the goods and b)they come in standard metric sizes to suit other reels.


Amen!

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby Cristo » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:45 pm

I am looking forward to the extra 100 yards they add to my cast :lol:
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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby mark poulson » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:58 pm

Cristo wrote:I am looking forward to the extra 100 yards they add to my cast :lol:


I was hoping more for longer periods between service/lubrication. I am not concerned with longer casts at this point.

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby SSS » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:36 pm

How can a no bearing reel cast further than a reel with quality ceramic hybrids? Not only are they saying that it casts further, but also easier. I just don't believe that one bit. Sounds like PR bs. No way in hell shimano/daiwa wouldn't be using these for a while if they were as good as 13fishing claims.

If i am wrong and they're better, i'd be as surprised as i've been when it comes to fishing.

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby MardukFIN » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:12 pm

"Regular" 13 Fishing bearing size is same as Shimano sideplate is. Spool bearing doesnt fit, cause id is larger.

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby Slazmo » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:04 am

Bought a Bantam 50 last week, it too is a bearingless reel (35 years young), bushings are being swapped out as it casts like a near 40 year old reel with tech that matches its casting performance.

I really want to see the "durability" of plastic polymer bushings in the hands of the public.

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby Houndfish » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:41 am

I have a Concept A I use on a travel rod I take hiking and on work trips. I am very interested in the Z bearings if they really will remove a point of failure from a reel that has a pretty tough life.

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby BucketHunter » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:09 pm

I'm getting into fly fishing and this article

https://www.yellowstoneangler.com/gear-review/2017-5-weight-shootout-fly-rod-review-best-5-weight-rod-best-fishing-pole-best-fly-rod-g-loomis-nrx-lp-scott-radian-g-loomis-asquith-t-t-avantt-thomas-and-thomas-avant-edge-by-gary-loomis-orvis-h2-covert-winston-air-sage-x

Says this reel

http://galvanflyreels.com/product/torque/


Uses self lubricating bushings instead of bearings called

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rulon_(plastic)

Made by this company

http://www.tstar.com/rulon


God I want to try one, I don't think it'll be as amazing as they claim, or will somehow not stand the test of time, but if they ARE that good, I just wanna CAST THE DAMN THING. Skeptical or not, what they are claiming is next gen, step forward tech for the reel market. It could surely revitalize what maybe some of us thought was a fully developed reel tech market! Or maybe it's SHYTE. Doesn't matter. Wanna try wanna try wanna try.

BTW guys, if you feel the monkey weakening, there is plenty of sexy tackle to look at over there on the 1:1 side. Trust me.
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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby MAChucker » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:49 pm

BucketHunter wrote:I'm getting into fly fishing and this article

https://www.yellowstoneangler.com/gear-review/2017-5-weight-shootout-fly-rod-review-best-5-weight-rod-best-fishing-pole-best-fly-rod-g-loomis-nrx-lp-scott-radian-g-loomis-asquith-t-t-avantt-thomas-and-thomas-avant-edge-by-gary-loomis-orvis-h2-covert-winston-air-sage-x

Says this reel

http://galvanflyreels.com/product/torque/


Uses self lubricating bushings instead of bearings called

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rulon_(plastic)

Made by this company

http://www.tstar.com/rulon


God I want to try one, I don't think it'll be as amazing as they claim, or will somehow not stand the test of time, but if they ARE that good, I just wanna CAST THE DAMN THING. Skeptical or not, what they are claiming is next gen, step forward tech for the reel market. It could surely revitalize what maybe some of us thought was a fully developed reel tech market! Or maybe it's SHYTE. Doesn't matter. Wanna try wanna try wanna try.

BTW guys, if you feel the monkey weakening, there is plenty of sexy tackle to look at over there on the 1:1 side. Trust me.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head. They might not be using that exact material or company but it sounds like it might be a match. Their "Rulon J" bearings they seem to be touting as extremely low friction, self lubricating and near-zero water absorption. All of which you would want for a reel bearing, and seem to echo what 13 has been hinting at. If that IS what they are using though, looks like we finally know what they are made of....glass reinforced PTFE.

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Re: Concept Z bearings

Postby GOOD YEAR 71 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:33 pm

I'm not even on the fence here, but I am peeking over it. Does anyone know how to interpret either of these charts?

http://www.tstar.com/RULON-COMPARISON-CHART

http://hindustan-nylons.com/webpages/PT ... tions.html
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