13 Fishing Concept Z

[Slazmo]

It's interesting that with the amount of buzz about the Concept Z, it did not win an ICAST award over the Curado K.

Marketing output vs reality vs consumer receipt vs response.

Went out too hard IMHO with technology that wasn't focused enough to promote their direction and created a black hole of confusion and expectations within their target market. Again using spono'd anglers to push it in their adverts didn't do much good either... And just painting and existing frame orange and calling it a new product with only the exception of bearings exchanged to bushings doesn't do much help either.

Now to see how the product is received, used, abused and then reviewed after good use.

[Real Pudd legend]

When will the concept Z be released to the public ?

[johnD]

When will the concept Z be released to the public ?

February 2018

[Real Pudd legend]

Thanks !! Hopefully it turns out to be an awesome reel .

[BucketHunter]

It's interesting that with the amount of buzz about the Concept Z, it did not win an ICAST award over the Curado K.

You're right, that is interesting.

I wouldn't read too much into that. Many people believe that these awards are bought and paid for long before the show ever runs, hence the head scratching choices most years.
The new Curado is also a really, really nice reel. I don't get the hate for the "I", but this was a very solid improvement over it. We'll see if the same haters are still the same haters when it all shakes out this year.
If Daiwa went the route that 13 has with this reel, and made the same claims, using their paid pros, half the guys here would need a rag to clean up the mess by now. Why don't we wait to see how the thing performs before we stamp it as a failure? If I am not mistaken, no one here has actually cast one?"

[y2k88]

Assuming traditional bearings get noisy, rusty or size up because of the saltwater, how would the same saltwater affect the czb?
Any foreseeable issues with salt crystallisation and smoothness?

[johnD]

Assuming traditional bearings get noisy, rusty or size up because of the saltwater, how would the same saltwater affect the czb?
Any foreseeable issues with salt crystallisation and smoothness?

Just like a plastic water bottle that washes up on some island in the south pacific...unscathed.

who's gonna swap out the bushings for bearings ?

You can also swap out bearings for bushings. 13 Fishing is selling the bushing for 11 bucks a pop

So even if you don't have a concept z , you can make your current concept a Z reel for $11........unreal

[Hobie-Wan Kenobi]

Assuming traditional bearings get noisy, rusty or size up because of the saltwater, how would the same saltwater affect the czb?
Any foreseeable issues with salt crystallisation and smoothness?

Just like a plastic water bottle that washes up on some island in the south pacific...unscathed.

who's gonna swap out the bushings for bearings ?

You can also swap out bearings for bushings. 13 Fishing is selling the bushing for 11 bucks a pop

So even if you don't have a concept z , you can make your current concept a Z reel for $11........unreal

I'm not sure what sizes they will offer but, in theory, yes you could make a zero ball bearing reel.

[Texas-Rigged]

If it has that crappy aluminum worm gear, I'm out.

[DaisyZillion]

Being a saltwater fisherman I'm pretty excited about a corrosion free bearing alternative with comparable performance, the one on the spool there looks like it might be a 5x11x4, presuming they come in standard metric sizes. The bit that gets me is going to be wear and durability between the spigot/axle shaft and the ID of the bush, particularly when salt and contaminants are introduced.

[MardukFIN]

It's interesting that with the amount of buzz about the Concept Z, it did not win an ICAST award over the Curado K.

You're right, that is interesting.

I wouldn't read too much into that. Many people believe that these awards are bought and paid for long before the show ever runs, hence the head scratching choices most years.
The new Curado is also a really, really nice reel. I don't get the hate for the "I", but this was a very solid improvement over it. We'll see if the same haters are still the same haters when it all shakes out this year.
If Daiwa went the route that 13 has with this reel, and made the same claims, using their paid pros, half the guys here would need a rag to clean up the mess by now. Why don't we wait to see how the thing performs before we stamp it as a failure? If I am not mistaken, no one here has actually cast one?"

+1

[Chode]

is it saltwater safe?

also curious as to how well it'll skip

[Kurt L]

I think Daiwa Got hosed on the ICAST Awards too, developing multiple lines of all new super light spinning reels, and Shimano wins an award for a warmed over Stradic/Ci4+...
I hope the Concept Z is a winner I'm looking for another brand now. I'm done with buying new Shimano's that need to be sent for repair right out of the box.

Kurt

[Markanthony404]

Something tells me this concept z will be one of the greatest reels ever or one of the worst. Ether way it's got people talking.

[Jrob]

Something tells me this concept z will be one of the greatest reels ever or one of the worst. Ether way it's got people talking.

LOL. I am watching for this reel myself. Time will tell. I like the idea for sure. Plus I love that color.