13 Fishing Concept Z

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by curls » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:41 am

Slazmo wrote:This was posted on FB

"13 Fishing
Name Name we aim to prove that these CZB bearings are BOTH smooth and durable. We don't claim they perform equally to ball bearings....we are stating they exceed ball bearing performance.
1 hour ago · Like1More"

Closest thing to CZB was CSB in search results and they're a 'self lubricating slide bushing', so a bi-composite metallic bushing.
Maybe something similar to these: http://www.lm76.com/selflube_vs__ball.htm

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by mark poulson » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:57 am

curls wrote:
Slazmo wrote:This was posted on FB

"13 Fishing
Name Name we aim to prove that these CZB bearings are BOTH smooth and durable. We don't claim they perform equally to ball bearings....we are stating they exceed ball bearing performance.
1 hour ago · Like1More"

Closest thing to CZB was CSB in search results and they're a 'self lubricating slide bushing', so a bi-composite metallic bushing.
Maybe something similar to these: http://www.lm76.com/selflube_vs__ball.htm
That is an interesting link. Thanks.

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by Carylab » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:10 pm

What's the release date?

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by diehardbassfishing » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:29 am

Spring 2018 release.

Z Bearing:
I'm thinking Delrin bushings. Much like Teflon but Delrin is harder material, and would lend itself as a better polymer to machine a precision bushing.

The link in post above shows a metal bushing lined inside with PTFE (Teflon). Wonder about pros and cons of using a "two piece" bushing vs. a solid polymer. The bi-composite would likely provide a tighter manufacturing tolerance, and better environmental tolerance.

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by mark poulson » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:37 am

diehardbassfishing wrote:Spring 2018 release.

Z Bearing:
I'm thinking Delrin bushings. Much like Teflon but Delrin is harder material, and would lend itself as a better polymer to machine a precision bushing.

The link in post above shows a metal bushing lined inside with PTFE (Teflon). Wonder about pros and cons of using a "two piece" bushing vs. a solid polymer. The bi-composite would likely provide a tighter manufacturing tolerance, and better environmental tolerance.
This is really getting my curiosity up, for sure! This is the first time I've really looked forward to I CAST, other than Bobby Barrack's videos. =P~

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by MardukFIN » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:04 pm

Can't wait to get one!

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by nikbrewer » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:16 am

from looking at the picks, is this going to be based on the Origin or Concept frame? THe few pics i have seen make it look like the new Origin C, just in orange

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by johnD » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:00 pm

I was there today , it's smooth , no doubt about it...

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by Slazmo » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:59 pm

Seen the "bearings" on te TT feed on Insta, bushings nothing new. Was hoping for at least magnetic maglev spool bearings.

How long will these last, special lube for them, are they any different from say Shimano's polymer bushing on spools say as in their low end reels or the one in tge Calcutta that everyone swaps out for a bearing...

Honestly we should be at the forefront of 21st century kind of tech. Im pretty disappointed after all the hype.

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by mark poulson » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:56 pm

Slazmo wrote:Seen the "bearings" on te TT feed on Insta, bushings nothing new. Was hoping for at least magnetic maglev spool bearings.

How long will these last, special lube for them, are they any different from say Shimano's polymer bushing on spools say as in their low end reels or the one in tge Calcutta that everyone swaps out for a bearing...

Honestly we should be at the forefront of 21st century kind of tech. Im pretty disappointed after all the hype.
Can you post a link to the bearings pictures?

I'm going to withhold judgement until either I get to use one, get a report from someone I know who's used one, or hear the TT review from Cal or Zander.

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by papabassin » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:59 pm

mark poulson wrote:
Slazmo wrote:Seen the "bearings" on te TT feed on Insta, bushings nothing new. Was hoping for at least magnetic maglev spool bearings.

How long will these last, special lube for them, are they any different from say Shimano's polymer bushing on spools say as in their low end reels or the one in tge Calcutta that everyone swaps out for a bearing...

Honestly we should be at the forefront of 21st century kind of tech. Im pretty disappointed after all the hype.
Can you post a link to the bearings pictures?

I'm going to withhold judgement until either I get to use one, get a report from someone I know who's used one, or hear the TT review from Cal or Zander.
http://tackletour.com/reviewicast1713fi ... ceptz.html

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by mark poulson » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:04 pm

papabassin wrote:
mark poulson wrote:
Slazmo wrote:Seen the "bearings" on te TT feed on Insta, bushings nothing new. Was hoping for at least magnetic maglev spool bearings.

How long will these last, special lube for them, are they any different from say Shimano's polymer bushing on spools say as in their low end reels or the one in tge Calcutta that everyone swaps out for a bearing...

Honestly we should be at the forefront of 21st century kind of tech. Im pretty disappointed after all the hype.
Can you post a link to the bearings pictures?

I'm going to withhold judgement until either I get to use one, get a report from someone I know who's used one, or hear the TT review from Cal or Zander.
http://tackletour.com/reviewicast1713fi ... ceptz.html
Thanks.

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by johnD » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:09 pm

Slazmo wrote:Seen the "bearings" on te TT feed on Insta, bushings nothing new. Was hoping for at least magnetic maglev spool bearings.

How long will these last, special lube for them, are they any different from say Shimano's polymer bushing on spools say as in their low end reels or the one in tge Calcutta that everyone swaps out for a bearing...

Honestly we should be at the forefront of 21st century kind of tech. Im pretty disappointed after all the hype.
I know , right !?! almost like i fell for some kinda youtube clickbait.... wait , i did. :lol:
those 3D printers are amazing , almost like cheating , you can build anything you want...

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Re: 13 Fishing Concept Z

Post by BRONZEBACK32 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:39 pm

I've never had a problem with any bearings I have ever used, I don't fish salt water though....

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