FWIW, the OG Zillion PE Special C6191 (marine grade aluminum bronze alloy?) high tensile brass gears were rated by Daiwa literature as the strongest gears they ever made for the OG Zillion platform. In my hands, it was also the smoothest gear set aside the CC 4.9.RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:35 amYou can purchase the 7.9 gears from the JDream on plat. They are part 38/52 and are sold as a set for 3630yen.
https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/opt ... siries/15/
I've purchased several sets. I also bought the the 6.3 out of the PE Special as they are the C6 Bronze gears.
Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
2009 Zillion PE Special: https://japantackle.com/daiwa-zillion-pesp.html
C6191:
https://www.sirui-material.com/showroom ... C6301.html
C6191:
https://www.sirui-material.com/showroom ... C6301.html
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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Agreed, a zillion crazy cranker is the smoothest reel I've ever had in my hands, as well.dragon1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:09 amFWIW, the OG Zillion PE Special C6191 (marine grade aluminum bronze alloy?) high tensile brass gears were rated by Daiwa literature as the strongest gears they ever made for the OG Zillion platform. In my hands, it was also the smoothest gear set aside the CC 4.9.RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:35 amYou can purchase the 7.9 gears from the JDream on plat. They are part 38/52 and are sold as a set for 3630yen.
https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/opt ... siries/15/
I've purchased several sets. I also bought the the 6.3 out of the PE Special as they are the C6 Bronze gears.
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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
I own 2 of each reel.Fishing4Fun wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:40 amThanks for all the input. I have decided on the Zillion SV TW for now mainly due to it being lighter, further caster, and I like the knobs better.![]()
The zillion casts better (longer distance) and does a little better with light baits.
However, difference in casting length and ease of casting light baits is heavily influenced by the spools, and you can get many 34mm aftermarket spools that will do great in both reels.
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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
They 6.3 C6 Bronze are sweet for sure. They are in my spinnerbait reels and I chuckle at times how smooth they are.dragon1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:09 amFWIW, the OG Zillion PE Special C6191 (marine grade aluminum bronze alloy?) high tensile brass gears were rated by Daiwa literature as the strongest gears they ever made for the OG Zillion platform. In my hands, it was also the smoothest gear set aside the CC 4.9.RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:35 amYou can purchase the 7.9 gears from the JDream on plat. They are part 38/52 and are sold as a set for 3630yen.
https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/opt ... siries/15/
I've purchased several sets. I also bought the the 6.3 out of the PE Special as they are the C6 Bronze gears.
Interesting l to note as I have 12+ sets of gears. The C6 do not tarnish and look brand new in the plastic while the brass has gotten darker. Not a performance review but a showing of their unique properties.
Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Yeppers... essentially the "same type" C6191 that's in the 2019 Morethan XH 8.6 with new gear design/cut/step/etc.RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:37 pmThey 6.3 C6 Bronze are sweet for sure. They are in my spinnerbait reels and I chuckle at times how smooth they are.dragon1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:09 amFWIW, the OG Zillion PE Special C6191 (marine grade aluminum bronze alloy?) high tensile brass gears were rated by Daiwa literature as the strongest gears they ever made for the OG Zillion platform. In my hands, it was also the smoothest gear set aside the CC 4.9.RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:35 amYou can purchase the 7.9 gears from the JDream on plat. They are part 38/52 and are sold as a set for 3630yen.
https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/opt ... siries/15/
I've purchased several sets. I also bought the the 6.3 out of the PE Special as they are the C6 Bronze gears.
Interesting l to note as I have 12+ sets of gears. The C6 do not tarnish and look brand new in the plastic while the brass has gotten darker. Not a performance review but a showing of their unique properties.
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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Holy chit that was an old post. Like 6 years ago. Yea I sold the Zillion SV TW and have kept and modded two SV103 reels. The SV103 is superior in every way.Dalleinf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:20 pmI own 2 of each reel.Fishing4Fun wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:40 amThanks for all the input. I have decided on the Zillion SV TW for now mainly due to it being lighter, further caster, and I like the knobs better.![]()
The zillion casts better (longer distance) and does a little better with light baits.
However, difference in casting length and ease of casting light baits is heavily influenced by the spools, and you can get many 34mm aftermarket spools that will do great in both reels.


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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Did all of the PE Specials come with the bronze gears? I don't remember my 6.3 PE Special being that much smootherRMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:37 pmThey 6.3 C6 Bronze are sweet for sure. They are in my spinnerbait reels and I chuckle at times how smooth they are.dragon1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:09 amFWIW, the OG Zillion PE Special C6191 (marine grade aluminum bronze alloy?) high tensile brass gears were rated by Daiwa literature as the strongest gears they ever made for the OG Zillion platform. In my hands, it was also the smoothest gear set aside the CC 4.9.RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:35 amYou can purchase the 7.9 gears from the JDream on plat. They are part 38/52 and are sold as a set for 3630yen.
https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/opt ... siries/15/
I've purchased several sets. I also bought the the 6.3 out of the PE Special as they are the C6 Bronze gears.
Interesting l to note as I have 12+ sets of gears. The C6 do not tarnish and look brand new in the plastic while the brass has gotten darker. Not a performance review but a showing of their unique properties.

Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
If I'm not mistaken, the Catalina TW also comes with the bronze "Hyper Digigear" as well.
Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Just the OG 6.3, not the later 7.9. I have had a couple of Zillions with the 6.3, all were very smooth, however in my hands, the PE is smoother under load, especially cranking big spinnerbaits with #6-#7 willows and big #5-#6 Colorado and Indiana blades.doomtrprz71 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:41 amDid all of the PE Specials come with the bronze gears? I don't remember my 6.3 PE Special being that much smootherRMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:37 pmThey 6.3 C6 Bronze are sweet for sure. They are in my spinnerbait reels and I chuckle at times how smooth they are.dragon1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:09 amFWIW, the OG Zillion PE Special C6191 (marine grade aluminum bronze alloy?) high tensile brass gears were rated by Daiwa literature as the strongest gears they ever made for the OG Zillion platform. In my hands, it was also the smoothest gear set aside the CC 4.9.RMCatchNrelease wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:35 amYou can purchase the 7.9 gears from the JDream on plat. They are part 38/52 and are sold as a set for 3630yen.
https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/opt ... siries/15/
I've purchased several sets. I also bought the the 6.3 out of the PE Special as they are the C6 Bronze gears.
Interesting l to note as I have 12+ sets of gears. The C6 do not tarnish and look brand new in the plastic while the brass has gotten darker. Not a performance review but a showing of their unique properties.![]()
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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Fishing4Fun wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:38 amHoly chit that was an old post. Like 6 years ago. Yea I sold the Zillion SV TW and have kept and modded two SV103 reels. The SV103 is superior in every way.Dalleinf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:20 pmI own 2 of each reel.Fishing4Fun wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:40 amThanks for all the input. I have decided on the Zillion SV TW for now mainly due to it being lighter, further caster, and I like the knobs better.![]()
The zillion casts better (longer distance) and does a little better with light baits.
However, difference in casting length and ease of casting light baits is heavily influenced by the spools, and you can get many 34mm aftermarket spools that will do great in both reels.
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Those be some friggin' BADASS SV103s John!
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Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Thanks homie!dragon1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:59 pmFishing4Fun wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:38 amHoly chit that was an old post. Like 6 years ago. Yea I sold the Zillion SV TW and have kept and modded two SV103 reels. The SV103 is superior in every way.Dalleinf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:20 pmI own 2 of each reel.Fishing4Fun wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:40 amThanks for all the input. I have decided on the Zillion SV TW for now mainly due to it being lighter, further caster, and I like the knobs better.![]()
The zillion casts better (longer distance) and does a little better with light baits.
However, difference in casting length and ease of casting light baits is heavily influenced by the spools, and you can get many 34mm aftermarket spools that will do great in both reels.
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Those be some friggin' BADASS SV103s John!

Re: Daiwa SV103 vs Zillion SV TW
Are those spools a Gold ZPI PG and a Red ZPI M?
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Ha. Sorry. I did not notice the date of the old post.
Beautiful SV103s you have there.
I use ZPI in mine too. Or should I say, I have ZPIs in my SV103s as I rarely use the reels. I do not think I used them at all in 2021-2022. Hope for time to give them a workout in 2013.
Beautiful SV103s you have there.
I use ZPI in mine too. Or should I say, I have ZPIs in my SV103s as I rarely use the reels. I do not think I used them at all in 2021-2022. Hope for time to give them a workout in 2013.
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