I just add oil to the worm shaft every time I lube. It doesn't move on the cast, and I think the oil cuts down on friction enough to limit the strain on the ends of the shaft. Plus I put a drop at each end, hoping it will migrate to the bearing points.Bronzeye wrote:IlliniDawg01 wrote: I put two bearings on the worm shaft, but I wouldn't recommend it. Very difficult and fair risk of damaging one of the plastic gears. I couldn't tell any difference after the change either.
2016 Zillion SV TWS
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This ^.TommyG wrote:I think he is referring to the difficulty of the task. The worm shaft on that reel is very hard to remove,hence the possibility of damaging the gear. The bearings themselves won't do any damage.adam lancia wrote:I'm confused by this, could you explain why the bearings on the worm shaft would potentially harm the plastic gears? I don't have one of these reels so I don't know how they go together. Thanks!Bronzeye wrote:IlliniDawg01 wrote: I put two bearings on the worm shaft, but I wouldn't recommend it. Very difficult and fair risk of damaging one of the plastic gears. I couldn't tell any difference after the change either.
The bearing doesn't hurt anything, but getting the worm gear out was very difficult. I don't recall exactly what was difficult about it exactly, but I think you have to grab on to or pry on the plastic gear in order to force the worm shaft out and I was nervous I was going to damage the gear.
Compared to an OG Zillion or TDZ, it was very sketchy. Those are "safe" to remove so long as you take your time with the clips.
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Ah, understood! Thanks for clearing that up.IlliniDawg01 wrote:This ^.TommyG wrote:I think he is referring to the difficulty of the task. The worm shaft on that reel is very hard to remove,hence the possibility of damaging the gear. The bearings themselves won't do any damage.adam lancia wrote:I'm confused by this, could you explain why the bearings on the worm shaft would potentially harm the plastic gears? I don't have one of these reels so I don't know how they go together. Thanks!Bronzeye wrote:IlliniDawg01 wrote: I put two bearings on the worm shaft, but I wouldn't recommend it. Very difficult and fair risk of damaging one of the plastic gears. I couldn't tell any difference after the change either.
The bearing doesn't hurt anything, but getting the worm gear out was very difficult. I don't recall exactly what was difficult about it exactly, but I think you have to grab on to or pry on the plastic gear in order to force the worm shaft out and I was nervous I was going to damage the gear.
Compared to an OG Zillion or TDZ, it was very sketchy. Those are "safe" to remove so long as you take your time with the clips.
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Are you sure the washer that is under the e clip wasn't holding the shaft? It's a common error. If it's not removed first it can catch in the groove the e clip sits in.IlliniDawg01 wrote:This ^.TommyG wrote:I think he is referring to the difficulty of the task. The worm shaft on that reel is very hard to remove,hence the possibility of damaging the gear. The bearings themselves won't do any damage.adam lancia wrote:I'm confused by this, could you explain why the bearings on the worm shaft would potentially harm the plastic gears? I don't have one of these reels so I don't know how they go together. Thanks!Bronzeye wrote:IlliniDawg01 wrote: I put two bearings on the worm shaft, but I wouldn't recommend it. Very difficult and fair risk of damaging one of the plastic gears. I couldn't tell any difference after the change either.
The bearing doesn't hurt anything, but getting the worm gear out was very difficult. I don't recall exactly what was difficult about it exactly, but I think you have to grab on to or pry on the plastic gear in order to force the worm shaft out and I was nervous I was going to damage the gear.
Compared to an OG Zillion or TDZ, it was very sketchy. Those are "safe" to remove so long as you take your time with the clips.
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My XXH arrived today and I think I am in love. I have an SV105 so I sort of knew what to expect from the spool, but the TWS is really impressing me. I have been working crazy hours for the last few weeks and to stay sane I have been practicing pitching down a hallway in my house. I am still not great at it but have been improving a lot. But until this evening, I have never been able to achieve the "bait gliding perfectly parallel to the water/floor" effect with any consistency. But with this reel I can do it like clockwork, at least at short hallway distances. So excited to get this thing on the water.
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Question, is it ok to turn the handle deliberately with no spool on it? I know its not recommended on Tatula CT as that action could damage pinion and main gear teeths (I spell it as design flaw)
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Not an issue with the zillion as the pinion gear is supported both ends by a bearing.wandyhee wrote:Question, is it ok to turn the handle deliberately with no spool on it? I know its not recommended on Tatula CT as that action could damage pinion and main gear teeths (I spell it as design flaw)
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Received my ZILLION SV TW 9.1 yesterday, I would like to share few picture here with some comments:
All in Japanese, can't understand single words but picture do tells thousand words
weight before disassemble
spool weight
crank handle weight
drag star weight
tension cap weight
If you look closely, there are only 1 bearing on each of handle knob (left), black stuff between knob & screw is plastic, i'm going to get another bearing to replace those, size 4x7x2.5
disassemble, grease & lube each parts inside. side note, I have trouble to remove key Washer #88 as it stuck on the end of Drive Shaft #83, end up sanding the end of Drive Shaft #83 to allow Key Washer slip out freely.
weight after service
All in Japanese, can't understand single words but picture do tells thousand words
weight before disassemble
spool weight
crank handle weight
drag star weight
tension cap weight
If you look closely, there are only 1 bearing on each of handle knob (left), black stuff between knob & screw is plastic, i'm going to get another bearing to replace those, size 4x7x2.5
disassemble, grease & lube each parts inside. side note, I have trouble to remove key Washer #88 as it stuck on the end of Drive Shaft #83, end up sanding the end of Drive Shaft #83 to allow Key Washer slip out freely.
weight after service
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Did you get the reel cover with your reel? I bought 2 from Japan and neither one had a reel cover.
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yep, free reel cover from this seller https://www.facebook.com/OCEAN-STAR-Fis ... 207554046/ccass wrote:Did you get the reel cover with your reel? I bought 2 from Japan and neither one had a reel cover.
Their shop are located in West Malaysia border with Thailand. Price I get is MYR1090/USD246.38 (google conversion) include shipping.
They don't have official webpage, I guess they start as traditional style fishing tackle shop/store and now they widen their marketing via facebook and others online social media
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is that reel made in Thailand ?wandyhee wrote:yep, free reel cover from this seller https://www.facebook.com/OCEAN-STAR-Fis ... 207554046/ccass wrote:Did you get the reel cover with your reel? I bought 2 from Japan and neither one had a reel cover.
Their shop are located in West Malaysia border with Thailand. Price I get is MYR1090/USD246.38 (google conversion) include shipping.
They don't have official webpage, I guess they start as traditional style fishing tackle shop/store and now they widen their marketing via facebook and others online social media
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yep, MADE IN THAILAND as written at the back of reel seat
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I wasn't sure , thanks. I like my CT's from Thailand.wandyhee wrote:yep, MADE IN THAILAND as written at the back of reel seat
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Will reconfirm again once I get back home. As to me, it won't make much different as I'm sure their head of QAQC dept are authorised by their HQ branch in Japan. Most of factories nowaday move to Thailand or others SE Asia countries including automobile and so on