Bantam1 wrote:The Scorpion not coming here was not due to SVS. There was another Trade Mark that prevented its release here.
HEG- 1999 Trinidad, 2005 Curado 200D, Calais 100A
X-Ship- Similar to the competition, but the spool shaft is different. It makes the gears more efficient under a load due to less distortion. The end user feel is that the reel has more power and is smoother under a load. Most people do not understand gear efficiency...
Our firsts- Propulsion spool, One Piece Bail Wire, DC (all versions), HEG, Super Free (I think). There are some others but I am not 100% sure because I lack knowledge about the early 1900's and pre 1900's.
Most companies borrow from each other. Patents are only good for 10-15 years, and there are always loopholes or variations of the designs. I will say that the Japanese are serious about how they study a subject and develop new products. If you guys only knew some of the crazy ways they test things. There are also several different ways to achieve the same result. We will all have our own ideas on how to do it.
We may not always be first to do something, but you can believe that we will do it better
Thanks for chiming in Bantam...
- Yep, HEG/over-sized gearing most likely came from SW world (with many other manufacturers of SW reels having now incorporated this design for many years, decades even)...noted already and then trickled down to FW. On FW bass reels, the Morrum IVCB likely preceded the CL 100A, and maybe the Antares AR. I owned both the Morrum IVCB 3600 and CL 100A most immediately when both reels became available, and I distinctly recall having access to purchase the Morrum IVCB prior to the CL 100A. Overseas, I don't know which one was developed and brought to market first.
- Shimano's X-Ship and Super Free design has properties and design cues that are similar to both that of Daiwa's and Abu's Ultra Cast design. Here is a good read on Ultra Cast and ADS (from a very respected and knowledgeable contributor on BFHP):
http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/bassboard/R ... e_id=40083
- DC, digitally controlled magnetic braking. Advancement on magnetic braking, but not the first to bring to market for the BIG THREE. This one is fun because so many hard-core, Shimano-only users have advocated the superiority of centrifugal braking vs mag...but the one of the most "advanced braking systems" offered by Shimano to date is...?
- One piece bail wire, likely with Stella for FW, no? Granted some older high-end Daiwas had this design as well, so it would be interesting to timeline this.
- Shimano's Super Free reminds me a lot of combining Daiwa's and Abu's together again.
To reiterate, NOTHING is NEW, per se - and ROG has de-mystified these beliefs for us over and over again. For the sake of being relative on this thread however, we are speaking of modern day reels, from current FW manufacturers that are still viable and more importantly - recognized as the leaders in our industry.
In alphabetical order as to not singe any @rse hairs:
Abu, Daiwa, Shimano
