I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

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I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by RichWentFishing504 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:07 am

Got a curado I in the 5.5:1 gear ratio after much deliberation. After fishing with it now I'm hooked. Nice, smooth, and I no longer am overworking the bait. I like fishing fast and throw a lot of square bills and manns baby's. Even with such shallow water presentations I can't believe how nicely it works. I paired it up with a dobyns 705cb glass and muscled some redfish with it. Now that the fall is here I'll get to see how well I can keep up with the speedy speckled trout with this gear ratio.

The only thing I fear is it may be too slow for ripping rattle traps.

Anyone else switch over to low gears for cranks?

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by dragon1 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:49 am

True crankers have been doing it for decades...and the slow IPTs makes you pay attention to your bait more, rather than just power-fishing and covering water.

Rod tip action/stiffness also changes the wobble and action of certain cranks, as does rod length, line type/size used. ;)

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by fishballer06 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:52 am

If only Shimano would offer the I series in a 5:1 for us lefties :(

The Chronarch 201E5 is a great crank reel for the lefties though.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by Teal101 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:57 am

I am currently using a Curado 201DPV for shallow cranks and a TD-Z Personal 103L for deep cranks. I think I'm going to step up to a 6.8:1 ratio reel for the shallow cranks just to allow me more speed to burn when needed, but I love using my low ratios.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by Markanthony404 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:15 am

I use a Calcutta TE200 GT A for cranking, it has a 5.0:1 gear ratio. It makes cranking a pleasure when compared to other reels. I seem to catch more fish too because I don't get tired out. I used to crank with the classic chronarch 100A, great reel but the 6,2;1 ratio makes fishing deep divers too difficult. Shimano now has the conquest and I know it will be a great cranking reel but at over $550 I think I will just keep my 3 Calcutta TE's for a few more years.
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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by 21farms » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:57 am

RichWentFishing504 wrote:Nice, smooth, and I no longer am overworking the bait. I like fishing fast...
totally agree here...i like to fish fast and the low-gear ratio helps me not overwork the bait while allowing me to fish cranks and swimbaits at my preferred pace. i use 5:1 reels for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits too...the power and increased torque is so very nice. i too am thinking of using a 6:1 reel for rattlebaits.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by Chode » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:39 am

lews tp pro 5.4 absolutely love em for cranks

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by Teal101 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:18 am

21farms wrote:
RichWentFishing504 wrote:Nice, smooth, and I no longer am overworking the bait. I like fishing fast...
totally agree here...i like to fish fast and the low-gear ratio helps me not overwork the bait while allowing me to fish cranks and swimbaits at my preferred pace. i use 5:1 reels for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits too...the power and increased torque is so very nice. i too am thinking of using a 6:1 reel for rattlebaits.
I'm using a 7:1 right now for spinnerbaits and it is a bear to reel in double colorado blades :lol: A lower ratio really works better. I wont fish anything deeper than 10' on a reel that isnt below 6:1.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by njbasscat » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:09 am

I like the very slow crazy cranker for deep divers, big spinnerbaits, or any bait with a lot of resistance. I have one and its paired with a Dobyns 765 glass.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by StarTzar » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:20 pm

Chode wrote:lews tp pro 5.4 absolutely love em for cranks
I have two and they are excellent. I have no problem with ripping rattle traps.
Recently purchased a Calcutta Conquest 4.8:1 and also excellent.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by sofinesse » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:50 pm

I crank exclusively with reels that are 5:1. for me it helps me feel the bait around cover better. kinda like moving slowly through a crowd rather than bumrushing through it. If I need more speed I turn the handle faster lol. I use the lucky craft mini magic and a curado e5 pretty much the jam for everything that dives to about 12 feet but especially good for squarebills which it was designed for. I have a bantam curado in 3.8 that felt a bit too slow but I might give it a go one of these days.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by dragon1 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:31 pm

sofinesse wrote: I have a bantam curado in 3.8 that felt a bit too slow but I might give it a go one of these days.
I have a mint Daiwa PT33C, which is a 3.8:1 that was fully tuned and polished by Ian...it still pulls 18.5" with a full spool per turn, it is very usable especially in cold water when slow rolling lots of different lures in deeper water. I also use it to slow wake larger lures, like the Buzzjet. Compared to any other reel in my arsenal, the cranking power on this reel is stoopid. :shock:

The biggest downfall with IPTs less than 20", is not being able to crank fast enough on fish that run towards you, or towards cover.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by GARRIGA » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:59 pm

I tend to prefer the 5:1 range for increased torque and it doesn't get better than a Ryoga 1016. Want more IPT then easy enough to crank faster but I get more fatigue and less pleasure having to deal with all that resistance with a 7:1 option. There are specific situations for 6:1 (spinnerbaits) and 7:1 (top water) but I find myself mostly favoring that low gear.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by Johnny A » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:35 pm

It's easier to slow down with a fast reel than speed up (efficiently and effectively) with a slow reel.

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Re: I've seen the light. low gear ratio for shallow cranks

Post by mark poulson » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:30 pm

Johnny A wrote:It's easier to slow down with a fast reel than speed up (efficiently and effectively) with a slow reel.

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