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I was tossing a 1/5 ned with a zman finesse trd into the wind with no issues... 2022 shimano Metanium shallow edition with my MB P5 xbites on 30 lb sunline sx1 braid...
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Yeah that total weight should be easy with a good casting light spool BC and rod with a tip that can load well. Plus that bait is pretty compact and aerodynamic.
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My favorite new Ned and Shaky head set up is a GLX 842 and an Alphas Air TW, 8lb braid to 8lb FC leader for Neds and 10lb with a shaky head. It's such a great combo.bronzebacks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:01 pmI use a conquest and glx 842c but the lowest weight is 1/10 oz net + trd
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It can do everything on the lighter side.they should be rated down to a 1/8 oz. The Glx is a great action for jerkbait and small topwater but the handle is just a little to long for memontey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:02 pmMy favorite new Ned and Shaky head set up is a GLX 842 and an Alphas Air TW, 8lb braid to 8lb FC leader for Neds and 10lb with a shaky head. It's such a great combo.bronzebacks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:01 pmI use a conquest and glx 842c but the lowest weight is 1/10 oz net + trd
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Yeah it's long, but I love it because I am only using it for bottom contact, and small cranks and spinner baits. I agree that they should be rated down to 1/8oz.bronzebacks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:37 pmIt can do everything on the lighter side.they should be rated down to a 1/8 oz. The Glx is a great action for jerkbait and small topwater but the handle is just a little to long for memontey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:02 pmMy favorite new Ned and Shaky head set up is a GLX 842 and an Alphas Air TW, 8lb braid to 8lb FC leader for Neds and 10lb with a shaky head. It's such a great combo.bronzebacks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:01 pmI use a conquest and glx 842c but the lowest weight is 1/10 oz net + trd
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The Phenix K2 683ml is literally the perfect rod for this. Tip angle, speed, reserve power - it's all just right imo.
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I've got a Point Blank 69MLXF that is a lot of fun with a 1/10 ounce head and 3" Ned Roboworm. I'm casting to docks, rocks and shallow targets a lot of the time. I use an Alphas reel and 6-8lb Sniper. I step up to a 1/8 ounce head when I am fishing a little deeper. Anything deeper than 15 feet and I am more likely to dropshot.
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Love this blanktoddmc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 3:24 pmI've got a Point Blank 69MLXF that is a lot of fun with a 1/10 ounce head and 3" Ned Roboworm. I'm casting to docks, rocks and shallow target a lot of the time. I use an Alphas reel and 6-8lb Sniper. I step up to a 1/8 ounce head when I am fishing a little deeper. Anything deeper than 15 feet and I am more likely to dropshot.
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Just bought an NRX+ 842c MBR and will put an Alberan BFS on it just for mainly small tubes and Ned rigs. I fish spinning for small stuff but like to switch back and forth from spinning to casting during the day
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For what it's worth, I've been able to fish the Steez AGS "Finesse Game Special" a bit recently and it is indeed a great casting finesse rod. I didn't have any issues maintaining bottom contact with 1/8oz heads + worm in 18 feet of water, but on deep offshore spots (22-25 feet) I'll go to a 3/16oz head + worm.
"The Ned" is still the ultimate Ned rig rod to me, it's just perfect in its action, power, and fun factor. But a "Finesse Game Special" (casting) paired with an SS Air TW is a very fun combo, as well.
"The Ned" is still the ultimate Ned rig rod to me, it's just perfect in its action, power, and fun factor. But a "Finesse Game Special" (casting) paired with an SS Air TW is a very fun combo, as well.
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Hi Drakestar. I have a few questions regarding the finesse special if you don't mind. Is the taper a true fast? What's the upper and lower limit? Is the sensitivity on par with nrx? Lastly, how good is the balance with an~6oz reel? Thx in advanceDrakestar wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:41 pmFor what it's worth, I've been able to fish the Steez AGS "Finesse Game Special" a bit recently and it is indeed a great casting finesse rod. I didn't have any issues maintaining bottom contact with 1/8oz heads + worm in 18 feet of water, but on deep offshore spots (22-25 feet) I'll go to a 3/16oz head + worm.
"The Ned" is still the ultimate Ned rig rod to me, it's just perfect in its action, power, and fun factor. But a "Finesse Game Special" (casting) paired with an SS Air TW is a very fun combo, as well.
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I don't feel that I have enough experience with this rod to confidently / accurately answer those questions. If I had to give impressions right now, it's definitely a true XFast taper (in my experience, all solid tip rods are), and it feels accurately specced at 3/8oz upper limit, but it might be able to do a bit more. I've thrown more on it (1/8oz Ned head + FattyZ worm, around 0.42oz), and that worked fine. But it's a super buoyant worm, which makes the overall weight feel lighter in my experience. Not sure about lower limit, I haven't tried less than a regular 1/8oz Ned + worm yet, and I've only fished deep water with it.Chode wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:01 pmHi Drakestar. I have a few questions regarding the finesse special if you don't mind. Is the taper a true fast? What's the upper and lower limit? Is the sensitivity on par with nrx? Lastly, how good is the balance with an~6oz reel? Thx in advanceDrakestar wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:41 pmFor what it's worth, I've been able to fish the Steez AGS "Finesse Game Special" a bit recently and it is indeed a great casting finesse rod. I didn't have any issues maintaining bottom contact with 1/8oz heads + worm in 18 feet of water, but on deep offshore spots (22-25 feet) I'll go to a 3/16oz head + worm.
"The Ned" is still the ultimate Ned rig rod to me, it's just perfect in its action, power, and fun factor. But a "Finesse Game Special" (casting) paired with an SS Air TW is a very fun combo, as well.
Not sure about sensitivity yet; I have a 821 NRR that plays in the same league as this rod, but I haven't fish them side by side. I think I'm having an easier time keeping bottom contact in deep water on the Finesse Game Special, solid tips do well in that area. But in experience (and I don't have a ton of it), a solid tip doesn't necessarily help with sensitivity, it helps with keeping things connected and making bites easier to detect visually (watching the tip deflect). The Finesse Game Special a high-end rod and I was able to easily detect bites in 22+ feet of water. If pressed I'd give the NRR the edge, but it's a feeling only, not based on head to head comparisons yet.
The SS Air TW I have on the rod weight 5.22oz spooled, and the rod balances a tiny bit before the end of the reel nut. Total weight in 8.75oz or so; the combo doesn't feel exceedingly light, but it fishes comfortably.
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