Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

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Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by freelancer27 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:41 pm

HI all,

I am currently running the Okuma TCS 7'3 heavy (1/2oz -2 oz) as my frog rod. What i have noticed is that the rod is a bit underpowered when I am fighting bigger fish or fish in heavy cover.

The ideal specs for such rod for me would be:

* Max length 7 foot
* fast/extra fast tip in order to be able to throw lighter frogs and still be able to 'walk-the-dog' them
* well balanced with a 6.5+ oz reel
* robust


Thanks for your ideas and recommendations!

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by bbates3 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:33 pm

http://store.13fishing.com/p/muse-black ... asting-rod

Here is an idea

Never fished it. But seen a video where it’s designed as a short frog stick

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by freelancer27 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:07 pm

bbates3 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:33 pm
http://store.13fishing.com/p/muse-black ... asting-rod

Here is an idea

Never fished it. But seen a video where it’s designed as a short frog stick
THanks for your recommendation. I just do not want to give any business to this company.

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by Sore Thumb » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:47 pm

How is your budget? What about a Steez Machine Gun Cast type3. 6'9"?

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by Finnz922 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:11 am

Irod Genesis 2 704. I use this rod for the same thing. Has a Tat SV on it.

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by freelancer27 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:04 am

Sore Thumb wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:47 pm
How is your budget? What about a Steez Machine Gun Cast type3. 6'9"?
This is a medium heavy. I am not sure if it is the right choice for frogs in heavy cover.

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by goldrod » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:48 am

SUPER RAKKAI
short rod at 6'9" 3/8-1 1/2oz
The Rod your looking for. It’s a wonderful rod that I highly recommend.

But The XXX line Up, The Cover Hacking and Mat Buckner rod I've considered myself.
Maybe someone here can speak from experience on them.
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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by bwjay » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:23 am

The Kistler Helium3 7' HXF might possibly meet your requirements. I got it as a fairly lightweight frogging rod that could do other things decently, and so far it has lived up to that. But, it's more like F than XF, and for being rated as a Heavy rod, I expected a little heavier. That being said I'm GLAD it's not any more stout than it is. It has a good amount of backbone but it's definitely not anything close to a broomstick. I have a St. Croix Premier 7' MHF which is only a tiny bit less stout, but it weighs 1.4oz more and feels stiffer for sure. That rod is OK for frogging but I wanted a lighter rod to make it easier on my wrist.

So I think the Helium3 7' HXF would work, and is a good frog rod, but you MAY want something with even a little more backbone to rip through cover, and MAYBE a little faster action. But, it is a sweet rod that is actually pretty decent even for 5" weightless Senkos but also for 3/8oz jigs and spinnerbaits. I find it quite versatile but it's pretty good at walking frogs and ripping through thick weeds that we get here in Minnesota. And pretty darn sensitive if my couple hours with a jig are any indication. Something to consider at least!

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by Black Haze » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:49 am

Megabass tour versatile

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by Sore Thumb » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:46 pm

freelancer27 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:04 am
Sore Thumb wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:47 pm
How is your budget? What about a Steez Machine Gun Cast type3. 6'9"?
This is a medium heavy. I am not sure if it is the right choice for frogs in heavy cover.
No worries. We use it for Barramundi in heavy cover. What about the Blenheim? Next rating up. Same length but a heavy rating.

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by freelancer27 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:48 pm

Sore Thumb wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:46 pm
freelancer27 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:04 am
Sore Thumb wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:47 pm
How is your budget? What about a Steez Machine Gun Cast type3. 6'9"?
This is a medium heavy. I am not sure if it is the right choice for frogs in heavy cover.
No worries. We use it for Barramundi in heavy cover. What about the Blenheim? Next rating up. Same length but a heavy rating.
Are you using it with trebble hook lures?

THanks for the tip!

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by MCROUT14 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:37 am

I use the XX Tour Versatile for Frogs/Light flippin and have had no issues. Another rod I would consider but might have a hard time locating is the F6-69XRC or the Aaron Martens "Frog Game Special" edition.

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by johnD » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:12 am

Jason Christie 6'11 cara t7 heavy frog rod.

Tatula Elite 6'9" Heavy Montgomery rod.

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by Sore Thumb » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:44 pm

freelancer27, we usually are using frogs with either double hooks or large soft plastics with big single hooks.

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Re: Looking for a short frog rod for medium to heavy cover

Post by goldrod » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:54 pm

MCROUT14 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:37 am
I use the XX Tour Versatile for Frogs/Light flippin and have had no issues. Another rod I would consider but might have a hard time locating is the F6-69XRC or the Aaron Martens "Frog Game Special" edition.
I’ve been looking for a frog game special for about three months on and off
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