Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby Tokugawa » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:34 am

:shock: :shock: :shock:

I would openly weep.

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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby Cal » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:39 am

Tokugawa wrote::shock: :shock: :shock:

I would openly weep.


They're just luck it happened well after the review was complete and published :lol:
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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby JBcrankaddict » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:08 am

I haven't gone spiral wrap yet, agree with Scooby that there is no need with the fishing we do. I have re-wrapped most of my NRX rods with SIC or Torzite though. Much smaller stripper guides and all single foot guides(stripper is double) and it makes the rods really come alive.

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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby Tokugawa » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:58 am

JBcrankaddict wrote:I haven't gone spiral wrap yet, agree with Scooby that there is no need with the fishing we do. I have re-wrapped most of my NRX rods with SIC or Torzite though. Much smaller stripper guides and all single foot guides(stripper is double) and it makes the rods really come alive.


Says the guy who hasn't fished one... :lol:

Blank twist is a thing. ;)

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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby hoohoorjoo » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:02 pm

Tokugawa wrote:
JBcrankaddict wrote:I haven't gone spiral wrap yet, agree with Scooby that there is no need with the fishing we do. I have re-wrapped most of my NRX rods with SIC or Torzite though. Much smaller stripper guides and all single foot guides(stripper is double) and it makes the rods really come alive.


Says the guy who hasn't fished one... :lol:

Blank twist is a thing. ;)

....especially with lighter blanks that flex more. Stiffer blanks from MH power and up aren't as crucial imo, because the line is much less likely to touch the blank under load.
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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby Hogsticker2 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm

adam lancia wrote:I simple spiraled my OG Helium LTA with macro guides and love how it feels now. It's a Kistler medium fast which means the tip is really light. I use it primarily for flukes and notice a big difference in setting the hook, it's much more direct especially when a fishy bites at the end of a long cast.

Exactly

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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby Hogsticker2 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:39 pm

ScoobyDoo wrote:
Hogsticker2 wrote:
ScoobyDoo wrote:I've always wondered the reason to spiral wrap a bass rod? I get it for fish that actually pull for a long time under heavy loads.
Even deep cranking....
Is it worth it over the extra care needed to not bang guides on the opposite side of the blank?

Size of fish doesn't matter, so long as you're using the appropriate blank for the task at hand. It's even more valuable when you hook into a fat smallie on a light action blank. Under load is under load, and cause the blank to twist. This may sound weird, but I have small hands. I can completely notice a difference in blank twist between spiral and conventional. Even with small reel seats, I can definitely feel more twisting pressure on my wrist when fighting a fish with a conventional rod. And even if none of this were true, from a logical perspective, it just makes sense to have the guides running along the bottom of the blank. Especially the tip and towards the tip. Even if you have never used a spiral wrap, you can picture this in your head, and conclude how the difference would effect the rod, and the experience.


I've owned and fished a few acid wrapped sticks...
With bass gear it's barely noticeable (i have small hands too)
The benefits present themselves with hard pulling fish when you're not clipped in.
I spend about 20% of my time bass fishing...In the NE I can see the benefit for inshore if chasing large stripers and repetitive gator bluefish due to fatigue...I can definitely see the advantage if running for pelagics. Or drag burners down south

But for FW bass....they don't fight. It takes about 10 seconds to break their will.
The fatigue fighting benefits of acid wrapping are real. Sure it will combat the tendency for the rod to want to roll with bass gear....but it's barely noticeable and in my opinion it really doesn't benefit the angler...

I love the concept...and in my experience it's benefits are real....but not for bass fishing with little palmable bass reels. If ya want to have conversations with people about your gear...you'll surely get asked tons of questions...(that could be a positive or a negative)

Then comes the whole bank fishing aspect of bushwhacking with a rod with guides all over the place.....definitely not as easy as a rod with em all down the same side.

Agree to disagree. Fighting a 6 lb smallmouth on a ML stick, approx 300 grams of power took closer to 10 minutes to break her will..... Not 10 seconds. We don't all flip and punch with broom sticks. The lack of twist and roll was very nice. Why wouldn't you want the blank to behave as intended?

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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby Hogsticker2 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:42 pm

hoohoorjoo wrote:
Tokugawa wrote:
JBcrankaddict wrote:I haven't gone spiral wrap yet, agree with Scooby that there is no need with the fishing we do. I have re-wrapped most of my NRX rods with SIC or Torzite though. Much smaller stripper guides and all single foot guides(stripper is double) and it makes the rods really come alive.


Says the guy who hasn't fished one... :lol:

Blank twist is a thing. ;)

....especially with lighter blanks that flex more. Stiffer blanks from MH power and up aren't as crucial imo, because the line is much less likely to touch the blank under load.

I don't fish anything over 500 grams of power, so they all get spiral wrapped.
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Re: Rewarpping a manufatured rod with spiral guides

Postby JBcrankaddict » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:05 am

Tokugawa wrote:
JBcrankaddict wrote:I haven't gone spiral wrap yet, agree with Scooby that there is no need with the fishing we do. I have re-wrapped most of my NRX rods with SIC or Torzite though. Much smaller stripper guides and all single foot guides(stripper is double) and it makes the rods really come alive.


Says the guy who hasn't fished one... :lol:

Blank twist is a thing. ;)

I was going off the OP's question, and haven't re-wrapped any factory rods spiral. Doesn't mean I've never used one :lol: All my offshore rods are spiral wrapped, so I do understand the reasoning behind it. When I have an amberjack bending the rod in half, I'm glad that blank isnt twisting! Still don't see the need for it on the lighter stuff, as I've never had a rod break because of twist. Nothing wrong with it at all, and if it's what you like then go for it.


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