13 Archangel

Finnz922 · Post by **Finnz922** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:24 pm

Chode wrote:
Finnz922 wrote:
BucketHunter wrote:How come 13 can come into the market in 2 years and do this kind of damage, but we are still waiting on the Zayta?
Better business plan. Or bigger balls... Whatever it is it's working and they are taking the market by storm. Who else has ever done this?
carrot stix

Your reaching there. No reels, no high end, terrible quality and at least while I worked for Cabela's they rarely took care of there customers. Good try though, I see where you were coming from

tywithay · Post by **tywithay** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:51 pm

fishingandfords wrote:I can't see people jumping on these rods at this price point

We need more info

If they were available for preorder, I'd already be jumping on one

fishingandfords · Post by **fishingandfords** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:04 pm

tywithay wrote:
fishingandfords wrote:I can't see people jumping on these rods at this price point

We need more info
If they were available for preorder, I'd already be jumping on one

I would wait for more details and the hype to wear down But that's just me

Chode · Post by **Chode** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:53 pm

Finnz922 wrote:
Chode wrote:
Finnz922 wrote:
BucketHunter wrote:How come 13 can come into the market in 2 years and do this kind of damage, but we are still waiting on the Zayta?
Better business plan. Or bigger balls... Whatever it is it's working and they are taking the market by storm. Who else has ever done this?
carrot stix
Your reaching there. No reels, no high end, terrible quality and at least while I worked for Cabela's they rarely took care of there customers. Good try though, I see where you were coming from

haha, i was totally being facetious...to me, at least, they had a lot going for them. 1) icast overall best of show 2)bassmasters classic winner in boyd duckett...but they blew it

Teal101 · Post by **Teal101** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:21 am

BucketHunter wrote:How come 13 can come into the market in 2 years and do this kind of damage, but we are still waiting on the Zayta?

If I recall correctly Dobyns had a setback with a patent on the 3M material they were using in the rod.

Redfish · Post by **Redfish** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:42 am

For me personally, I would not buy one immediately. Too new to price a rod at over 600 bones. You are talking custom price there.

spookybaits · Post by **spookybaits** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:54 am

Redfish wrote:For me personally, I would not buy one immediately. Too new to price a rod at over 600 bones. You are talking custom price there.

Agreed.
After spending an hour or so yesterday surfing through rakuten, jdm rod mfgs & e-tailers I found a handful of rods with torzite guides, at descend prices to boot. Shipping cost will definitely add to the price but still way south of $600

OSPIMAE · Post by **OSPIMAE** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:16 pm

I'm on the bandwagon!

Yeah you can get other rods with torzite guides, but you aren't going to get anywhere near the customer support that you are going to get with 13 Fishing.

Mcyl · Post by **Mcyl** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:25 pm

$500-550 for Torzites, the best blank in the business and Y'all know how Gorgeous Borges looks after anglers :-)

tywithay · Post by **tywithay** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:17 pm

Mcyl wrote:$500-550 for Torzites, the best blank in the business and Y'all know how Gorgeous Borges looks after anglers :-)

But it's ugly.

OSPIMAE · Post by **OSPIMAE** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:53 pm

You import phoenix so I'm not surprised you said that.

Mcyl · Post by **Mcyl** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:57 pm

OSPIMAE wrote:You import phoenix so I'm not surprised you said that.

With his record among Phenix users in this forum no one is. Keep in mind this is a record of service extended beyond both our time on TTF and indeed some other brands.

Also, why would sales of a rod in the US affect an importer?

That said, Matt has been an excellent ambassador for 13. Always prompt and informative so $999 or not I'm sure great service will be a prerequisite for the USDM

dragon1 · Post by **dragon1** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:56 pm

IMO, the true mark of a factory rod's "greatness" in the $500+ range is RESALE...

Whilst I don't have a crystal ball - I wouldn't wager that the Archangel will have the kind of resale value seen on classic JDM MB, Evergreen, Daiko, etc.

Martin Lo · Post by **Martin Lo** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:00 pm

dragon1 wrote:IMO, the true mark of a factory rod's "greatness" in the $500+ range is RESALE...

Whilst I don't have a crystal ball - I wouldn't wager that the Archangel will have the kind of resale value seen on classic JDM MB, Evergreen, Daiko, etc.

...I've seen prices offered on Evo Diablos and cried...
Likewise for the jabberwock slant bridge. It's one of those rods where I'll hunt down on Tackleberry and get refurbished...not caring if it's more than $600

bassinmaumee · Post by **bassinmaumee** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:43 am

I would love to try one out, but I cant see myself ever spending more than like 300 on a rod. Maybe if I wasnt stuck bank banging and river wading I would, but I would pry rage out of control if I broke a 500$ rod making a mistake lol.

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