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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby freelancer27 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:24 pm

Houndfish wrote:
Dalleinf wrote:New reels to consider:
I have the Loomis CR721, which is very nice, but perhpaps a little too much of a rod for 1/8 oz (or less) IMO.


I have one as well and agree, it does not perform well for me at it's lower rating, which is iirc 3/16oz. It really starts to shine around 5/16 to 3/8oz lures.


I do have a G. Loomis E6X Casting Rod 6'8" Med Hvy 803C JWR that is rated for 3/16 oz lures. So not really seeing a benefit in getting the CR721..


THis rod in this video is probably not strong enough for bass, but it is just a joy to watch him cast into little pockets.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFfDXSUAX1M&t=190s

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby spencerinstl » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:17 pm

freelancer27 wrote:
Houndfish wrote:
Dalleinf wrote:New reels to consider:
I have the Loomis CR721, which is very nice, but perhpaps a little too much of a rod for 1/8 oz (or less) IMO.


I have one as well and agree, it does not perform well for me at it's lower rating, which is iirc 3/16oz. It really starts to shine around 5/16 to 3/8oz lures.


I do have a G. Loomis E6X Casting Rod 6'8" Med Hvy 803C JWR that is rated for 3/16 oz lures. So not really seeing a benefit in getting the CR721..


THis rod in this video is probably not strong enough for bass, but it is just a joy to watch him cast into little pockets.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFfDXSUAX1M&t=190s

There is a big difference between the light CR 721 and the medium heavy 803. If you are wanting to go finesse, a medium heavy rod isn't going to do it. Invest in a finesse reel whether the Alphas Air, Scorpion BFS or a used pixy variant. And find a light rod whether Gloomis, Megabass, MajorCraft or something else.
Thanks for the epiphany captain obvious

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby fffishing » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:26 pm

freelancer27 wrote:
fffishing wrote:DAIWA ALPHAS AIR
G.Loomis CR 841-1 GL3 or CR 842-2 GL3


What about the reel?


DAIWA ALPHAS AIR -thats the reel 8-)
And G Loomis trout series ;)
For your budget it's the best finesse set up.

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby Dalleinf » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:28 pm

I have not used the two first rods (benkeki, hyuga). I guess they have a fast action (?), which you should be looking for if you want to throw poppoers and plastics.

I have the 782 N-One BF, which I am very happy with for my searun brown trout fishing.
Be aware that the N-One series of BFS rods have a soft tip and a more moderate action, which is fine for crankbaits and inline spinners and such - but not ideal for jigs and plastics and poppers. Also note that the rod is spiral wrapped, which you may like / may not like.

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby LowRange » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:41 pm

freelancer27 wrote:Hi all,

I am currently using a G. Loomis E6X Casting Rod 6'8" Med Hvy 803C JWR with a Lew’s Team Pro Speed Spool (system is spooled with 20 pound braid with 8 pound mono leader).

I am looking to throw lighter lures than this combo is currently capable of. I am struggling to get a 1/8oz popper further than 15 yards and for weightless plastics I would like to go even lighter than this.


What kind of BFS set ups are you guys using or can recommend?

Budget is around 400-500 USD.

Thanks all!


What species are you going to be targeting, what weight of baits will you be throwing and what are you looking for in a rod? An UL rod like Trout rod will cast 1/8 oz poppers and sub 1/8 oz plastics really well but is not going to have the sort of power and backbone an UL BFS stick is going to have. If you're targeting bass I recommend an UL BFS stick like a Majorcraft Volkey 65UL or something similar.

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby freelancer27 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:20 pm

LowRange wrote:
freelancer27 wrote:Hi all,

I am currently using a G. Loomis E6X Casting Rod 6'8" Med Hvy 803C JWR with a Lew’s Team Pro Speed Spool (system is spooled with 20 pound braid with 8 pound mono leader).

I am looking to throw lighter lures than this combo is currently capable of. I am struggling to get a 1/8oz popper further than 15 yards and for weightless plastics I would like to go even lighter than this.


What kind of BFS set ups are you guys using or can recommend?

Budget is around 400-500 USD.

Thanks all!


What species are you going to be targeting, what weight of baits will you be throwing and what are you looking for in a rod? An UL rod like Trout rod will cast 1/8 oz poppers and sub 1/8 oz plastics really well but is not going to have the sort of power and backbone an UL BFS stick is going to have. If you're targeting bass I recommend an UL BFS stick like a Majorcraft Volkey 65UL or something similar.



Yeah, something around these weight limits (maybe even a bit lighter at some point). Bass is the primary species, at times I would like to go for trout as well.

What do u think about http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-BEN ... 0005.m1851 ?

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby LowRange » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:53 pm

freelancer27 wrote:
LowRange wrote:
freelancer27 wrote:Hi all,

I am currently using a G. Loomis E6X Casting Rod 6'8" Med Hvy 803C JWR with a Lew’s Team Pro Speed Spool (system is spooled with 20 pound braid with 8 pound mono leader).

I am looking to throw lighter lures than this combo is currently capable of. I am struggling to get a 1/8oz popper further than 15 yards and for weightless plastics I would like to go even lighter than this.


What kind of BFS set ups are you guys using or can recommend?

Budget is around 400-500 USD.

Thanks all!


What species are you going to be targeting, what weight of baits will you be throwing and what are you looking for in a rod? An UL rod like Trout rod will cast 1/8 oz poppers and sub 1/8 oz plastics really well but is not going to have the sort of power and backbone an UL BFS stick is going to have. If you're targeting bass I recommend an UL BFS stick like a Majorcraft Volkey 65UL or something similar.



Yeah, something around these weight limits (maybe even a bit lighter at some point). Bass is the primary species, at times I would like to go for trout as well.

What do u think about http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-BEN ... 0005.m1851 ?


As a Majorcraft fan I've been curious about the Benkei now that the Volkey is gone. I think a Majorcraft L powered BFS rod is the ideal BFS starting point. As a guy who fishes both a 68L and 65UL Volkey I think that the 65UL is better suited to 1/8 oz poppers and under 1/8 oz total weight plastics/jigs plastics. Even then the 65UL is fairly stiff and doesn't cast those baits as well as a Trout rod but has much, much more power making it better suited to fishing for bass around cover.

I'd get the Benkei and fish it for a season or two as a starting point. If you also want something lighter in power then you'll have plenty of time to collect your thoughts and decide if you want an UL BFS or Trout rod in addition to the L Benkei.

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby Dalleinf » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:41 pm

This is probably the spool you should get for sub 1/8 - the 1012 (not 1016):
https://japanlureshop.com/rcs-baitcasti ... 15315.html

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby freelancer27 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:45 pm

Dalleinf wrote:This is probably the spool you should get for sub 1/8 - the 1012 (not 1016):
https://japanlureshop.com/rcs-baitcasti ... 15315.html

Thanks!



I am about to pull the trigger on a BFS set up (assuming I can sell my Metanium).

As the rod I will most likely go with: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-BEN ... SwmLlX2Qtc


I am wondering which reel to pair it with:

Options that i am considering:

* Aldebaran BFS (light and compact, price is ok)
* Calcutta Conquest BFS (incredible machinery and robust, salt water safe, price is of course something to swallow)
* SV103 (that I have) with a BFS Spool -RCS BAITCASTING SV SPOOL 1012 SV G1 (probably the best bang for the buck. I just want to avoid spending a good amount of money on BFS and then have to update the reel eventually, given that the I could not fully leverage the potential here).


What do you guys think?

Thanks!

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby LowRange » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:16 pm

I prefer the DIY spools over the SV for 1/8 oz and under work. Take a look at these spools.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/RAYs-Studio-BFS- ... 0408.m2460

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby Dalleinf » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:12 pm

LowRange wrote:I prefer the DIY spools over the SV for 1/8 oz and under work. Take a look at these spools.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/RAYs-Studio-BFS- ... 0408.m2460


I like the DIY spools in my T3 SV and T3 1016.
As mentioned previously, I have not enjoyed using the DIY spools in the SV103. Have any of you guys used the combo?
Yesterday, I fished for several hours with the SV103 and RCS 1016 SV G1 and it was fantastic. I mainly used 1/4 oz spinners but also some 1/8 oz. I my hands the SV103 with standard spool does not cast very far (compared to my other reels) but that changes with the RCS G1 spool.
I do not know if the 1012 version performs as well, but I guess it does.
Thus, IMO you will like a RCS spool even if you do not fish with ultra light lures.
If you happen to dislike the spool then I think you will find many potential buyers (myself included).
If you go below 1/8 oz then get a BFS reel.
Yes, the Conquest BFS is expensive, but you will love it :-)

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby goldrod » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:28 pm

Theres an 09 aldebaran on here for sale for 280, some bearings and a ktf spool should be great..
Ian tuned mines and I like it, I was using kreit football heads with 8lb test and trick worms getting great distance.

Just an idea..
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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

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Re: Looking for a BFS set up

Postby goldrod » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:16 am

freelancer27 wrote:I am inclined to go a budget route initially:

Rod: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-Cor ... Sw0hlZEtFG

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-BEN ... SwmLlX2Qtc

Reel:

SV103 with BFS spool:

https://japanlureshop.com/rcs-baitcasti ... 15315.html

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112348374694



of course I am open to other recommendations.



SV103 as in the xs model? Or do you mean 105
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