Swimbait line?

[Native]

I think your on the right track. I use the Spider Hitch for my Double Loop to Loop connections. Simple to do, can do it with your eyes closed and is as strong as the Bimini without the complexity. Lubricate the Spider before tightening then put the loop on a post and tighten that sucker down and becomes wide but thin profiled. Ideal for passing thru regular guides. Give it a shot, it might surprise you with it's effectiveness. I swear by it.

[GARRIGA]

I think your on the right track. I use the Spider Hitch for my Double Loop to Loop connections. Simple to do, can do it with your eyes closed and is as strong as the Bimini without the complexity. Lubricate the Spider before tightening then put the loop on a post and tighten that sucker down and becomes wide but thin profiled. Ideal for passing thru regular guides. Give it a shot, it might surprise you with it's effectiveness. I swear by it.

Yeah, Spider is easy. One thumb and you're good to go.

[bassindon69]

Anyone useing P Line PF ? It has a thin dia. compared to the CX or CXX. Along the lines of something like Sunline Supernatural but the PF is a co-poly.

This is all I have used from the day it came out or close to that time lol. Almost every single big bass I set on comes up to or just under the surface. Most jump one to 6 times on the way in. No drag is needed with the right pressure on the fish. If I used braid I feel I would be more worried about ripping a hook out. If you use drag then that also is means of the fish gaining control.I However we all like to do things this way or that so if it works its right.

[g11k11]

20-25lb big game or triple fish mono

[cst]

Anyone useing P Line PF ? It has a thin dia. compared to the CX or CXX. Along the lines of something like Sunline Supernatural but the PF is a co-poly.

This is all I have used from the day it came out or close to that time lol. Almost every single big bass I set on comes up to or just under the surface. Most jump one to 6 times on the way in. No drag is needed with the right pressure on the fish. If I used braid I feel I would be more worried about ripping a hook out. If you use drag then that also is means of the fish gaining control.I However we all like to do things this way or that so if it works its right.

So do you ever snap fish off if your drag is locked down?

[dragon1]

So do you ever snap fish off if your drag is locked down?

I highly doubt any sized LMB can "snap off" line in the 15lb + CXX class/size, unless the fish "fell out of a tree" on a taught line. If they are running into structure, that is different, but open water with swimbaits, doubtful.

The heavier line is really meant to absorb the punishment put on by the heavier lures during casting, retrieving etc., and not necessarily during the hookup & fight of the fish.

I just personally put on some 17lb CXX in favor of 20lb CXX (in clear as it tends to be very slightly thicker in diameter than moss green) for lures up to the TT 8" and such, and have no qualms bout this line being strong enough for most everything I need it for here.

[cst]

So do you ever snap fish off if your drag is locked down?

I highly doubt any sized LMB can "snap off" line in the 15lb + CXX class/size, unless the fish "fell out of a tree" on a taught line. If they are running into structure, that is different, but open water with swimbaits, doubtful.

The heavier line is really meant to absorb the punishment put on by the heavier lures during casting, retrieving etc., and not necessarily during the hookup & fight of the fish.

I just personally put on some 17lb CXX in favor of 20lb CXX (in clear as it tends to be very slightly thicker in diameter than moss green) for lures up to the TT 8" and such, and have no qualms bout this line being strong enough for most everything I need it for here.

True. Rocks help though. And then there are striper, which I don't have much experience with.

[bassindon69]

Anyone useing P Line PF ? It has a thin dia. compared to the CX or CXX. Along the lines of something like Sunline Supernatural but the PF is a co-poly.

This is all I have used from the day it came out or close to that time lol. Almost every single big bass I set on comes up to or just under the surface. Most jump one to 6 times on the way in. No drag is needed with the right pressure on the fish. If I used braid I feel I would be more worried about ripping a hook out. If you use drag then that also is means of the fish gaining control.I However we all like to do things this way or that so if it works its right.

So do you ever snap fish off if your drag is locked down?

NEVER! Check the videos at youtube under bassindon69
Locked drag and XH and XXH LDC rods get em in. I don't like getting my butt kicked, I like kicking butt
ALL fish are on P-line PF 25 and 30 with 10" hard baits and bigger. Even in heavy cover with the weedless 8" hudd I use PF 25 (they come up to the surface anyway), ALWAYS no matter what you use check line and retie as needed Line is what you have confidence in, I have it with PF even in clear water. It's clear in the lakes I fish for the most part anyway.
Good luck with whatever you try

[cst]

Anyone useing P Line PF ? It has a thin dia. compared to the CX or CXX. Along the lines of something like Sunline Supernatural but the PF is a co-poly.

This is all I have used from the day it came out or close to that time lol. Almost every single big bass I set on comes up to or just under the surface. Most jump one to 6 times on the way in. No drag is needed with the right pressure on the fish. If I used braid I feel I would be more worried about ripping a hook out. If you use drag then that also is means of the fish gaining control.I However we all like to do things this way or that so if it works its right.

So do you ever snap fish off if your drag is locked down?

NEVER! Check the videos at youtube under bassindon69
Locked drag and XH and XXH LDC rods get em in. I don't like getting my butt kicked, I like kicking butt
ALL fish are on P-line PF 25 and 30 with 10" hard baits and bigger. Even in heavy cover with the weedless 8" hudd I use PF 25 (they come up to the surface anyway), ALWAYS no matter what you use check line and retie as needed Line is what you have confidence in, I have it with PF even in clear water. It's clear in the lakes I fish for the most part anyway.
Good luck with whatever you try

Already seen some of your videos!

I've been fishing 65lb spectra to 30lb big game with decent results but was thinking of trying the PF. I'm just not sure if I want to strip the spectra off one of my reels or get a new reel to try the PF on.

[hoohoorjoo]

That's an easy one to answer-get a new reel!

[angry john]

That's an easy one to answer-get a new reel!

Or TWO

[Carlos Carrapiço]

Yes, I'm aware of the BB rig but I have other concerns like carrying and handling those treble lures at night while walking the bank. As Tim stated, the hook is not sharp which gets compounded by any stretch. The BB rig will be my last resort as I workout refining my braid/fluoro setup. Perhaps in the future Ken will enploy an Owner or Gami super sharp thinner hook. I'd pay the premium to get a better setup.

Dear Garriga,

Maybe I'm stepping too far but I will say it any way.
In my opinion you are approaching the problem in the wrong way.

It doesn't matter how good is your rod, reel, line, lure, knot..., if you don't get the hook well placed in the fish mouth.
You have concerns carrying the lure, I normally hold the rod when walking, like in fishing position and I use my index finger to hold the line just above the lure. Like that I have full control and knowledge of the lure whereabouts.

If you decide to go the BB route (which I would advise), you can always use a treble hook cap.

You are losing trust in your gear because you are unhooking fish with the huddle. Well, this is a well known problem with a well known solution.
Think well before you try to reinvent the wheel.

Please don't be offended with my speech, these word come from someone that is very unwilling when doing lure modifications.

Good luck,
CC

[GARRIGA]

Carlos,

No offense taken and reason we come to these forums - different views and approaches so we can all learn.

I'll probably go the BB way but ala Mike Long with split rings and swivels because I prefer the idea of carrying unrigged Hudds. Anything to make shore bound fishing more enjoyable is highly sought out.

To solve the treble issue I will just rig it with two hooks down and those will be clipped. Safety for me at night and faster hook removal for the fish. Specially under low light conditions.

I've reloaded with straight 30# copolymer as the will have less stretch than 25# and forget the fluoro leader. We'll see how that goes.

I've gone back to vertical jigging (inspired by a search to find a solution for this) and have started using JBHC again but this time their 60# and its much smoother than what we typically load out reels with plus it has an actual break strength of greater than 90# which is more than I need for swimbaits or the nasty AJs I love to pursue.

Ultimately, I'm going to load 60# JBHC with an end loop and create my own 40# fluoro wind-on leaders so I can be ready for oversize bass as well as the occasional snook or tarpon found in the same waters. Gotta love south Florida.

[dragon1]

Crazy game fish variety for sure in S. Florida!

You lucky dog!

[Carlos Carrapiço]

Carlos,

No offense taken and reason we come to these forums - different views and approaches so we can all learn.

I'll probably go the BB way but ala Mike Long with split rings and swivels because I prefer the idea of carrying unrigged Hudds. Anything to make shore bound fishing more enjoyable is highly sought out.

To solve the treble issue I will just rig it with two hooks down and those will be clipped. Safety for me at night and faster hook removal for the fish. Specially under low light conditions.

I've reloaded with straight 30# copolymer as the will have less stretch than 25# and forget the fluoro leader. We'll see how that goes.

I've gone back to vertical jigging (inspired by a search to find a solution for this) and have started using JBHC again but this time their 60# and its much smoother than what we typically load out reels with plus it has an actual break strength of greater than 90# which is more than I need for swimbaits or the nasty AJs I love to pursue.

Ultimately, I'm going to load 60# JBHC with an end loop and create my own 40# fluoro wind-on leaders so I can be ready for oversize bass as well as the occasional snook or tarpon found in the same waters. Gotta love south Florida.

Let us know the outcome.

I have also been dealing with some landing problems but my guess is that is more related to the fish mood that really with my approach. Also, I must consider that I'm fishing most docks and due to the lake low water level I'm 1 meter above the water.
Plus the fish seem very unwilling to really commit to the lures, very educated and selective.

The good part is the fact that is has been a great learning experience. I always thing that one learns more with the fish that we don't land.