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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by poisonokie » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:38 pm

Hobie-Wan Kenobi wrote:My ASC has a slight sound too. I find it is louder when the line guide is closer to the handle and fades when headed toward the sideplate.

When I put my thumb on the spool and turn the handle (stopping the spool), the above is still true.
Mine only does it if I reel while the lure is hooked to something. I just went ahead and ordered some 5.8 gears for it for Plat since I think they would be better suited for what I do with it anyway. If I clean up the gears and find that fixes the problem, great, I can always put those in one of the four other reels I have that can accept that gear set.
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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by Good351 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:42 am

One other thing to check is the spool bearing pin. I didn't get one exactly perfect centered and it made a tick tick sound when retrieved.

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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by LgMouthGambler » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:24 am

Good351 wrote:One other thing to check is the spool bearing pin. I didn't get one exactly perfect centered and it made a tick tick sound when retrieved.
Or even just the spool bearings. Easier to change them with a known good set and see what happens. Just had this issue with a NIB Lews Tournament MB, turned out to be a spool bearing.
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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by JontaK » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:16 pm

I had a similar problem with my Alphas Air.
It's a 5.8 and it knocked about six times per each full handle revolution; something pinion or spool related.

I could both hear and feel the knocking and it increased substantially under load.
Tore the reel apart a few times but couldn't figure it out, it had just been fished a couple of hours.
I checked the bearings, no problems with any of them.

Today I tore it apart again and studied the pinion gear and spool shaft under a magnifying glass.
Turns out the spool pins end was burred and/or damaged and the pin seems to be slightly bent.
Installed a new spool pin, carefully centered, and the knocking has disappeared completely.
Sometimes the solution is both easy and inexpensive, but just sometimes...

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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by poisonokie » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:02 pm

I will definitely try that too. Thanks for the input.

I'm glad I went ahead and bought 5.8 gears even if that isn't the problem. I can always use a spare set of 7.2's, so I hope they're still good and all I need is a spool pin.
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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by poisonokie » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:52 pm

Image

Hmmm...
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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by Craigthor » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:57 pm

poisonokie wrote:Image

Hmmm...
Is that separated or just the photos playing tricks?

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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by adam lancia » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:53 am

Tough for me to see anything from the photo. What did you notice?

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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by poisonokie » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:45 am

adam lancia wrote:Tough for me to see anything from the photo. What did you notice?
Nothing. I was hoping someone else might see something. It looks straight and centered to me. It also looks longer than normal, but I guess that's just the spool shaft?
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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by JontaK » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:21 pm

The problems with the spool pin in my Air was not visible to the naked eye, well not from a distance more than a couple of inches at least.
I saw a slight burr on the end when under magnifying glass, the bend in the pin became obvious when I placed the pin on a flat surface.

I'll try to take a few pictures of my pin.

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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by poisonokie » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:05 pm

JontaK wrote:The problems with the spool pin in my Air was not visible to the naked eye, well not from a distance more than a couple of inches at least.
I saw a slight burr on the end when under magnifying glass, the bend in the pin became obvious when I placed the pin on a flat surface.

I'll try to take a few pictures of my pin.
Thank you, sir.
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Re: Need a differential diagnosis...

Post by JontaK » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:21 pm

Well, the pin looks pretty normal in the pictures I took.
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There's a flat spot near the end on the left hand side.
The right end shows minor damage.

I have about 20 years experience working with reels of all brands but I can't quite figure out what actually caused the one per pinion/spool turn-knocking.
All I know for certain right know is the new spool pin sorted the issue.

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