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Re: Post purple

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:52 pm
by Hogsticker2
y2k88 wrote:Hyuga 6 pc
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Gear I no longer have.
Calfish painted Chronard D with Avail parts
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Daiwa Heartland-Z Ryuron spinning rod
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That Heartland :shock:
Sexy

Re: Post purple

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:11 am
by s2k4mee
Casting Rod Specifications
BLANK – NFC MB 665-1 HM extended to 7’ with carbon fiber woven tube
SEAT – Matagi Andromeda ECS
FORE GRIP – KDPS with Matagi CB-K16SM
REAR GRIP – Matagi EACS-SPb split EVA grip
GUIDES – Fuji Concept SiC guides spiral wrapped to the reel handle side. Left side
THREAD COLORS – Purple
KEEPER – Drop shot keeper. Right side
DECAL – Princess Limmilicious
OTHER DETAILS – Purple Matagi accessories ( K16LR, RSR, CBTOP, D16FR, HTWCB’s), Matagi balancer

REEL
Custom Daiwa Steez 100HLA painted by Calfish
Upgraded Carbontex drag
Upgraded Boca bearings
Ito carbon fiber handle
Bassart Knob GRK101 Purple

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Re: Post purple

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:27 pm
by Aquaftm45
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^WINNER^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Re: Post purple

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:43 pm
by Hogsticker2
s2k4mee -
That's just sick. I also have matching reels with custom rods, some reels painted. It's a sickness. Love the combo, except the knobs if I'm being honest. Cork or something black would set it on fire

Re: Post purple

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:58 pm
by LowRange
Great build =D>

Re: Post purple

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:53 pm
by DirtyD64
So maybe I am behind, but I am the kind of person who finds out what I don't know even if it is embarrassing...

So why are those guides that way? It seems like that would destroy casting distance, but I remember some other company releasing FW rods like that too. I understood for saltwater where you might not cast, but what is the deal with that guide train? Does it help sensitivity or like shift load a certain way to the blank? Just wondered and wanted to know.

Re: Post purple

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:58 pm
by LowRange
DirtyD64 wrote:So maybe I am behind, but I am the kind of person who finds out what I don't know even if it is embarrassing...

So why are those guides that way? It seems like that would destroy casting distance, but I remember some other company releasing FW rods like that too. I understood for saltwater where you might not cast, but what is the deal with that guide train? Does it help sensitivity or like shift load a certain way to the blank? Just wondered and wanted to know.


Spiral wrapping of the guides on the blank. My X4 711 is this way and it does not affect casting distance. The advantage is for non bass rod applications for casting rods in that under load the rod will not want to twist in your hands because the guides are on the bottom of the rod. Maybe in an offshore rod or something it makes sense but in a bass rod is the builder showing off their mad skills or adding a bit of flair to the build. My x4 711 has it because Megabass.

Re: Post purple

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:17 am
by DirtyD64
LowRange wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:So maybe I am behind, but I am the kind of person who finds out what I don't know even if it is embarrassing...

So why are those guides that way? It seems like that would destroy casting distance, but I remember some other company releasing FW rods like that too. I understood for saltwater where you might not cast, but what is the deal with that guide train? Does it help sensitivity or like shift load a certain way to the blank? Just wondered and wanted to know.


Spiral wrapping of the guides on the blank. My X4 711 is this way and it does not affect casting distance. The advantage is for non bass rod applications for casting rods in that under load the rod will not want to twist in your hands because the guides are on the bottom of the rod. Maybe in an offshore rod or something it makes sense but in a bass rod is the builder showing off their mad skills or adding a bit of flair to the build. My x4 711 has it because Megabass.



Thank you. From an engineering perspective I picture it as the line being a pendulum while fighting a fish. a spinning rod with bigger guides has the pendulum hanging below so it's not really affected. A casting rod would have a pendulum feel on top and if it gets too far on either side it "twists" like you said. That helped me put it in perspective, not sure if it's an accurate way to describe it though.

Re: Post purple

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:06 pm
by hoohoorjoo
DirtyD64 wrote:So maybe I am behind, but I am the kind of person who finds out what I don't know even if it is embarrassing...

So why are those guides that way? It seems like that would destroy casting distance, but I remember some other company releasing FW rods like that too. I understood for saltwater where you might not cast, but what is the deal with that guide train? Does it help sensitivity or like shift load a certain way to the blank? Just wondered and wanted to know.

I have a rod built by our own vinnieb729. It is my 1st spiral-wrapped rod and after using it, I understand the logic. This rod is built on a 7' UL moderate Batson Eternity popping blank. This blank isnt whippy by any means, but under load it flexes very deeply. If it had guides on top, the line would rub the blank between the guides. With the spiral-wrap, there are less guides required. That lets the rod load without fear of line rub. And since the build requires less guides, it translates to a lighter, crisper tip. It is truly a joy when fishing light cranks and it seems to have no effect on casting distance, even with tiny 2 gram cranks.
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Re: Post purple

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:31 pm
by Cal
New from Abu... Ike Series update...

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Re: Post purple

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:30 am
by Hogsticker2
hoohoorjoo wrote:
DirtyD64 wrote:So maybe I am behind, but I am the kind of person who finds out what I don't know even if it is embarrassing...

So why are those guides that way? It seems like that would destroy casting distance, but I remember some other company releasing FW rods like that too. I understood for saltwater where you might not cast, but what is the deal with that guide train? Does it help sensitivity or like shift load a certain way to the blank? Just wondered and wanted to know.

I have a rod built by our own vinnieb729. It is my 1st spiral-wrapped rod and after using it, I understand the logic. This rod is built on a 7' UL moderate Batson Eternity popping blank. This blank isnt whippy by any means, but under load it flexes very deeply. If it had guides on top, the line would rub the blank between the guides. With the spiral-wrap, there are less guides required. That lets the rod load without fear of line rub. And since the build requires less guides, it translates to a lighter, crisper tip. It is truly a joy when fishing light cranks and it seems to have no effect on casting distance, even with tiny 2 gram cranks.
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And he saw the light, even though he was late to the party :lol:

Re: Post purple

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:07 am
by DirtyD64
Now I want one. Gonna get out pliers, super glue, and duct tape. Just take off on whatever expensive rod I like best? Just kidding, but I really would like to try this technology/design. Seeing a rod built like that cast a 3 gram lure would be mind blowing. Just the thought of how line flows during a cast confused me about the whole concept of wrapped guides.

Re: Post purple

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:29 am
by hoohoorjoo
Vinnie's explanation of the necessity on this particular rod convinced me to try it, though I've always thought it was just a gimmick on most rods. But it really works beautifully on my rod, and it has Fuji K Ti/SiC micros. I still dont see the need on anything more than a medium powered bass rod, though on saltwater rods that literally bend into a rainbow arc under heavy loads, I can definitely see the benefit.
To the OP-sorry for the rabbit trail, maybe we can get this on back on topic.

Re: Post purple

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:56 pm
by aussiebasser
Did someone say Purple?

Sadly the Zombie Z was stolen recently, if you see it for sale, let me know. I'd like to catch the guy who has it. :evil:

Re: Post purple

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:19 pm
by LowRange
aussiebasser wrote:Did someone say Purple?

Sadly the Zombie Z was stolen recently, if you see it for sale, let me know. I'd like to catch the guy who has it. :evil:


That is a shame. Your Zombie Z is one of my favorites on this site. What a loss.