ZPI Reel?

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Re: ZPI Reel?

Post by SSS » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:21 am

At least the internals don't look too bad. Better than gen3 revos even

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Re: ZPI Reel?

Post by Johnny A » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:23 am

PikeRoadBassn wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:58 pm
For any of you who may be curious, I was sent a brand new in the box Alcance NS to be repaired. Out of the box the worm gear was not turning. Upon opening the reel, it was found that the idler gear was completely left out of the reel. Further more, IMO this is nothing special, other than the spool. It shares many features with many Banax built reels. The spool is certainly ZPI built, but sadly does not even include ZPI bearings. I mean for the love of all things holy, it even has Hot Sauce for lube.

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Is it possible the owner of this BNIB reel applied the Hot Sauce to the internals in an attempt to figure out what the problem was? ZPI carries their own grease designed for baitcasters, why would they use Hot Sauce? ZPI grease would cost them next to nothing and Hot Sauce isn't cheap.

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Re: ZPI Reel?

Post by ss30378 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:54 am

Johnny A wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:23 am
Is it possible the owner of this BNIB reel applied the Hot Sauce to the internals in an attempt to figure out what the problem was? ZPI carries their own grease designed for baitcasters, why would they use Hot Sauce? ZPI grease would cost them next to nothing and Hot Sauce isn't cheap.
I believe the zpi that you're thinking about has essentially disappeared completely. No more grease bearings or parts by the sounds of it. I doubt zpi does anything now but send boxes of spools to the oem reel supplier. ZPI probably never even touches the alcance line at all. Hot sauce would be dirt cheap if you have an oem contract with banax.

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Re: ZPI Reel?

Post by Johnny A » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:13 am

ss30378 wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:54 am
Johnny A wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:23 am
Is it possible the owner of this BNIB reel applied the Hot Sauce to the internals in an attempt to figure out what the problem was? ZPI carries their own grease designed for baitcasters, why would they use Hot Sauce? ZPI grease would cost them next to nothing and Hot Sauce isn't cheap.
I believe the zpi that you're thinking about has essentially disappeared completely. No more grease bearings or parts by the sounds of it. I doubt zpi does anything now but send boxes of spools to the oem reel supplier. ZPI probably never even touches the alcance line at all. Hot sauce would be dirt cheap if you have an oem contract with banax.
I was basing my question/statement re: Hot Sauce on personal experience. Someone sent a reel to me to check before sending it out to a JDM vendor. I removed the side plate and inside was slathered with Hot Sauce. So much, in fact, the worm gear wouldn't turn.
Granted, this is going back to 2004/2005 but it's not out of the realm of possibilities.

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Re: ZPI Reel?

Post by PikeRoadBassn » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:09 pm

Johnny A wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:13 am
ss30378 wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:54 am
Johnny A wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:23 am
Is it possible the owner of this BNIB reel applied the Hot Sauce to the internals in an attempt to figure out what the problem was? ZPI carries their own grease designed for baitcasters, why would they use Hot Sauce? ZPI grease would cost them next to nothing and Hot Sauce isn't cheap.
I believe the zpi that you're thinking about has essentially disappeared completely. No more grease bearings or parts by the sounds of it. I doubt zpi does anything now but send boxes of spools to the oem reel supplier. ZPI probably never even touches the alcance line at all. Hot sauce would be dirt cheap if you have an oem contract with banax.
I was basing my question/statement re: Hot Sauce on personal experience. Someone sent a reel to me to check before sending it out to a JDM vendor. I removed the side plate and inside was slathered with Hot Sauce. So much, in fact, the worm gear wouldn't turn.
Granted, this is going back to 2004/2005 but it's not out of the realm of possibilities.
It was 100% unmolested prior to disassembly. Customer removed the reel from packaging, noticed the Levelwind not moving, and contacted me immediately. I do most, if not all, of his reel work. I assume they don’t use their grease due to cost, much like they didn’t even use their bearings in the reel. This is, with the exception of the spool, and maybe drag star, a rebranded reel.

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Re: ZPI Reel?

Post by LgMouthGambler » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:28 am

Wow. Thats pretty dang funny when you think about it. :lol:
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