Metanium MGL geary feeling?
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Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
I have a Met 13, MGL and Calcutta Conquest 2015 101hg.
Nothing I have ever owned has been as smooth as the Conquest.
Out of the 3 it goes CQ, MGL then the 13.
Nothing I have ever owned has been as smooth as the Conquest.
Out of the 3 it goes CQ, MGL then the 13.
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Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
First post I have had two Metaniums...sold them. And now I have two MGLs. One is XG and the other is a regular. Both feel geary if the tension cap is tigthened beyond any side to side wiggle. I think other posters are right about the gear material. I recently bought a Chronarch MGL XG which feels much better; all brass. I will see if the gears are interchangeable between the Met and Chronarch. Slight drop in speed, but it would be worth it to get a smooth reel. If that doesnt work it I will sell again. Call me picky but for the price they should be perfect.
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Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
Welcome to the forum! To answer your question, they will not swap. Chronarch gears are smaller than Metaniums.RideauReelr wrote:First post I have had two Metaniums...sold them. And now I have two MGLs. One is XG and the other is a regular. Both feel geary if the tension cap is tigthened beyond any side to side wiggle. I think other posters are right about the gear material. I recently bought a Chronarch MGL XG which feels much better; all brass. I will see if the gears are interchangeable between the Met and Chronarch. Slight drop in speed, but it would be worth it to get a smooth reel. If that doesnt work it I will sell again. Call me picky but for the price they should be perfect.
Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
what about the brass gear set from the antares 12?JBcrankaddict wrote:Welcome to the forum! To answer your question, they will not swap. Chronarch gears are smaller than Metaniums.RideauReelr wrote:First post I have had two Metaniums...sold them. And now I have two MGLs. One is XG and the other is a regular. Both feel geary if the tension cap is tigthened beyond any side to side wiggle. I think other posters are right about the gear material. I recently bought a Chronarch MGL XG which feels much better; all brass. I will see if the gears are interchangeable between the Met and Chronarch. Slight drop in speed, but it would be worth it to get a smooth reel. If that doesnt work it I will sell again. Call me picky but for the price they should be perfect.
Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
I have 2 mgls and 2 met13 and i use zpi medium grease and i don't have any issues , smooth as silk and i am very picky about my reels
Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
after using relatively limp hybrid line then moving to braid, I notice a bit more vibration in the reel when using braid but I don't equate to the gear. I have done head to head tests between the CI4 and met's bouncing light shaky heads off chunk rock and the Met will emit more vibration making it to me the superior bottom bouncing reel. If the gear or any part of the reel is not perfect, I have no doubt you would feel it through the frame more then on the CI4. How much more I guess depends on the hand as this is a dialog similar to sensitivity.
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Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
It's funny how we all see and feel things different. I've felt the CI4 frame allowed vibrations to resonate through the reel much better since it's basically made of the same material as the fishing rod. This is something I never felt before with my aluminum and magnesium reels, and something I noticed right away. The magnesium is much more dense than the CI4 material, so it would make sense to be less sensitive. I know it's not important, since the NRX rods these reels sit on leave no doubt if you had a bite or not, but worth noting.DavidSA wrote:after using relatively limp hybrid line then moving to braid, I notice a bit more vibration in the reel when using braid but I don't equate to the gear. I have done head to head tests between the CI4 and met's bouncing light shaky heads off chunk rock and the Met will emit more vibration making it to me the superior bottom bouncing reel. If the gear or any part of the reel is not perfect, I have no doubt you would feel it through the frame more then on the CI4. How much more I guess depends on the hand as this is a dialog similar to sensitivity.
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Good question, hadn't even thought about that swap. I'll break down my Antares HG soon and check that out, it would be awesome to use those gears in the Met.phatbass wrote:what about the brass gear set from the antares 12?JBcrankaddict wrote:Welcome to the forum! To answer your question, they will not swap. Chronarch gears are smaller than Metaniums.RideauReelr wrote:First post I have had two Metaniums...sold them. And now I have two MGLs. One is XG and the other is a regular. Both feel geary if the tension cap is tigthened beyond any side to side wiggle. I think other posters are right about the gear material. I recently bought a Chronarch MGL XG which feels much better; all brass. I will see if the gears are interchangeable between the Met and Chronarch. Slight drop in speed, but it would be worth it to get a smooth reel. If that doesnt work it I will sell again. Call me picky but for the price they should be perfect.
Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
that would be sweet if they work,and the weight difference would be no biggie. can't wait to hear back on your findingsJBcrankaddict wrote:Good question, hadn't even thought about that swap. I'll break down my Antares HG soon and check that out, it would be awesome to use those gears in the Met.phatbass wrote:what about the brass gear set from the antares 12?JBcrankaddict wrote:Welcome to the forum! To answer your question, they will not swap. Chronarch gears are smaller than Metaniums.RideauReelr wrote:First post I have had two Metaniums...sold them. And now I have two MGLs. One is XG and the other is a regular. Both feel geary if the tension cap is tigthened beyond any side to side wiggle. I think other posters are right about the gear material. I recently bought a Chronarch MGL XG which feels much better; all brass. I will see if the gears are interchangeable between the Met and Chronarch. Slight drop in speed, but it would be worth it to get a smooth reel. If that doesnt work it I will sell again. Call me picky but for the price they should be perfect.
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Ditto. I'll order a couple of sets if the HG gears fit.
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I came across this somewhat randomly. I'd had the CI4 for months mounted on a NRX894. When I get a 13Met I mounted it on a second 894, same line, same lure and went to my local pond to test casting distance with light lures. Fish were biting pretty well and the chunk rock around the bank gave me lots of objects to bounce lures off of. After about 30 minutes, I felt distinct things from the Met combo I was not feeling or had felt on the CI4. I came back subsequent evenings that week with same and different lures.JBcrankaddict wrote:It's funny how we all see and feel things different. I've felt the CI4 frame allowed vibrations to resonate through the reel much better since it's basically made of the same material as the fishing rod. This is something I never felt before with my aluminum and magnesium reels, and something I noticed right away. The magnesium is much more dense than the CI4 material, so it would make sense to be less sensitive. I know it's not important, since the NRX rods these reels sit on leave no doubt if you had a bite or not, but worth noting.DavidSA wrote:after using relatively limp hybrid line then moving to braid, I notice a bit more vibration in the reel when using braid but I don't equate to the gear. I have done head to head tests between the CI4 and met's bouncing light shaky heads off chunk rock and the Met will emit more vibration making it to me the superior bottom bouncing reel. If the gear or any part of the reel is not perfect, I have no doubt you would feel it through the frame more then on the CI4. How much more I guess depends on the hand as this is a dialog similar to sensitivity.
In addition to each persons perception, the way we hold the reel could be a factor.
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Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
Any chance you have had time to check into this?JBcrankaddict wrote:Good question, hadn't even thought about that swap. I'll break down my Antares HG soon and check that out, it would be awesome to use those gears in the Met.phatbass wrote:what about the brass gear set from the antares 12?JBcrankaddict wrote:Welcome to the forum! To answer your question, they will not swap. Chronarch gears are smaller than Metaniums.RideauReelr wrote:First post I have had two Metaniums...sold them. And now I have two MGLs. One is XG and the other is a regular. Both feel geary if the tension cap is tigthened beyond any side to side wiggle. I think other posters are right about the gear material. I recently bought a Chronarch MGL XG which feels much better; all brass. I will see if the gears are interchangeable between the Met and Chronarch. Slight drop in speed, but it would be worth it to get a smooth reel. If that doesnt work it I will sell again. Call me picky but for the price they should be perfect.
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Very true. You've tested them against each other quite a bit, I've only swapped back and forth a few times and wasn't dragging baits on the bottom. My results were based on fishing a jerkbait, and feeling those bites on a long pause. Your results are much more clearly defined.DavidSA wrote:I came across this somewhat randomly. I'd had the CI4 for months mounted on a NRX894. When I get a 13Met I mounted it on a second 894, same line, same lure and went to my local pond to test casting distance with light lures. Fish were biting pretty well and the chunk rock around the bank gave me lots of objects to bounce lures off of. After about 30 minutes, I felt distinct things from the Met combo I was not feeling or had felt on the CI4. I came back subsequent evenings that week with same and different lures.JBcrankaddict wrote:It's funny how we all see and feel things different. I've felt the CI4 frame allowed vibrations to resonate through the reel much better since it's basically made of the same material as the fishing rod. This is something I never felt before with my aluminum and magnesium reels, and something I noticed right away. The magnesium is much more dense than the CI4 material, so it would make sense to be less sensitive. I know it's not important, since the NRX rods these reels sit on leave no doubt if you had a bite or not, but worth noting.DavidSA wrote:after using relatively limp hybrid line then moving to braid, I notice a bit more vibration in the reel when using braid but I don't equate to the gear. I have done head to head tests between the CI4 and met's bouncing light shaky heads off chunk rock and the Met will emit more vibration making it to me the superior bottom bouncing reel. If the gear or any part of the reel is not perfect, I have no doubt you would feel it through the frame more then on the CI4. How much more I guess depends on the hand as this is a dialog similar to sensitivity.
In addition to each persons perception, the way we hold the reel could be a factor.
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Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
Not yet. Those freshwater only reels stay in my boat 2.5 hours away. Plan to go to the lake and bring one back with me, hopefully this weekend.rockchalk06 wrote:Any chance you have had time to check into this?JBcrankaddict wrote:Good question, hadn't even thought about that swap. I'll break down my Antares HG soon and check that out, it would be awesome to use those gears in the Met.phatbass wrote:what about the brass gear set from the antares 12?JBcrankaddict wrote:Welcome to the forum! To answer your question, they will not swap. Chronarch gears are smaller than Metaniums.RideauReelr wrote:First post I have had two Metaniums...sold them. And now I have two MGLs. One is XG and the other is a regular. Both feel geary if the tension cap is tigthened beyond any side to side wiggle. I think other posters are right about the gear material. I recently bought a Chronarch MGL XG which feels much better; all brass. I will see if the gears are interchangeable between the Met and Chronarch. Slight drop in speed, but it would be worth it to get a smooth reel. If that doesnt work it I will sell again. Call me picky but for the price they should be perfect.
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Re: Metanium MGL geary feeling?
JBcrankaddict wrote: Not yet. Those freshwater only reels stay in my boat 2.5 hours away. Plan to go to the lake and bring one back with me, hopefully this weekend.
Thank you sir!