Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

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Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by kgasuns » Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:36 am

Is there a comprehensive explanation of Evergreen Kaleido lineup (in English, German or Russian) to be found?

TT has reviewed four or so of those rods (Super Stallion, Black Raven, Aleyoop, Husky Winder, if I remember correctly), but I still feel like lacking perspective. What about the other rods in the lineup and how are they positionend in relation to each other? What are their intended applications?

I got as far as this list at EG homepage, but it is rather... Japanese.
http://www.evergreen-fishing.com/goods_ ... r=2&s_no=9

Thanks!

P.S. After long hesitation got myself EG Super Stallion. Thanks for all the tips and reviews! But now I am after something more application specific and for longer casts.

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by bassm1n » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:56 am

I have the super cougar, black gunner, super stallion, husky winder and valiant. What exactly do you want to know about each.

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by kgasuns » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:39 pm

For example, what would be your best application for each of them? (Except Super Stallion and Husky winder, which are clear to me.)
How well is Husky Winder specifically for deep cranks? (I will not use it for any other.)

And... why not to include... any drawbacks (besides price) that they have? As an example, Super Stallion is rather short and not a great distance caster. (Which is also mentioned in the TT review.)

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by bassm1n » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:49 am

The super cougar is a med action rod for cranks, top water, jerks and other moving baits. The black gunned is extra fast for for jigs and worms. The husky is good for cranks 12 feet or less. The valiant is heavy duty for flipping, punching and big swimbaits. Have not found anything bad about the kaleido series.

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by kgasuns » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:23 pm

Thanks a lot!

How do you feel the Husky would do with 15 to 18 feet cranks? Like Megabass Deep-Six, Imakatsu IK-500R2.
Looks like I would need to go for Megabass Black Jungle deep cranking model after all...

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by bassm1n » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:42 pm

I think the action is too moderate for that but it depends on what you prefer

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by kgasuns » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:37 am

"Too moderate" in the sense of being overpowered by deeper cranks or just being slower action?

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by bassm1n » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:59 am

Over powered

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by evergreener » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:16 pm

I actually deep crank a lot with my husky winder. My definition of deep cranks ranges from Norman DD22, IK 500R, megabass Deep 6. I think the rod have absolutely no problem handling them. It is a composite blank rod, so you can certainly imagine that it is not a stiff and fast action rod. So you will notice a significant load up on the blank as you cast, or just exert pressure on the rod. But I assure you this, this rod is more than powerful for a crank bait rod. I especially love the transition of the tip, it seems soft but when you cranking your deep diver, somehow the soft tip all of a sudden dont seem too soft anymore. Just like the TT review suggests, the performance of the rod defies logic but most importantly it feels right. I guess that is what cranking technique is all about, the feeling. With a deep diver cranking on the end of the line, I still don't think the tip is overload, as it is doing its job vibrating and transmitting what's going on on the other end of the line. ( if it is overpower, I would imagine, it wont even be vibrating but just loaded up as you crank back. )

In my humble opinion, if you want a glass rod feature to handle crankbait around rocky or timber, where the give of the tip is key. I think this rod will do a great job, and it handles about all range of cranks! But if you are looking for a rod to rip your crankbait through grass, I highly doubt if this will be your rod.

Hope this help!

P.S. Kaleido is really a sick series of rods. elegantly classic aesthetic plus high performance. Like bassm1n mentioned, you really can't complaint much about these rods. These rods are SICK! Can't wait to see what the kaleido inspireare series have to bring to the table! 8-)

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by kgasuns » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:16 am

Thank you, evergreener! I love you! :lol:
This is exactly the detail I expected, and more.

And it is not really about "disadvantages", but specialisms. Like, when you say, that Husky is not for ripping through grass. That just helps to understand its charachter... Before you get to hold it in your arms.

Ok, saving for Husky it is then. :)

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by kgasuns » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:18 am

Anybody else to volunteer for review of Kaleido models, that were not covered by TT team? Or those covered, but lacking detail on exact specialism, that the model would best fit for?

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Re: Comprehensive explanation of EG Kaleido lineup?

Post by phiten » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:08 pm

Impala
Ideal for hardbaits ~5/8oz jerkbaits, topwaters and vibes. In my opinions an excellent rod for horizontal presentation.
Ideal for close quarter duties where u need lots of under casts, side casts and backhands.

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