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What do you think? Does that make any sense in today's world of 7's, 8's, & 9's?

poisonokie wrote:What do you think? Does that make any sense in today's world of 7's, 8's, & 9's?

I have interest in this question as well. I can think of one application where that would be nice, that is slow dragging Texas or Carolina rigs. But for most other things I kind of like having that faster gear ratio.

6.3:1 was considered "high speed" up until about 10 years ago. It worked then so why wouldn't it work now.

Big-Bass wrote:6.3:1 was considered "high speed" up until about 10 years ago. It worked then so why wouldn't it work now.

Very true, but I think the question is more is it still a good choice now that we have many more high speed options?

I used a 9.1 Zillion for C-Rigs, but 5/8 and above the torque just wasn't there, so I moved to an 8 speed. The 8 speed was okay, but 1oz Carolina weights took a little too much input (not a big deal, just don't want the bait all herky-jerky). Finally moved to a 7 speed and am much happier now. Personally I wouldn't go below 7 for almost anything, but I don't think a 6 speed for bottom contacts would be a fail, all the pros did it not too long ago.

cortman wrote:

Big-Bass wrote:6.3:1 was considered "high speed" up until about 10 years ago. It worked then so why wouldn't it work now.

Very true, but I think the question is more is it still a good choice now that we have many more high speed options?

Exactly. The thing is I wound up with a NIB Zillion SV, but it's a 6.3 and I ordered a 7.3 for my t rig rod. I can send it back for a refund, but it's worth more than that even as a shelf queen. Everything i use a 6.3 for is covered, and i don't want to depreciate it just to see if i think fishing texas and jika rigs with it will put smile on my face or make me wish I'd have gotten a 7.3 somehow.

DirtyD64 wrote:I used a 9.1 Zillion for C-Rigs, but 5/8 and above the torque just wasn't there, so I moved to an 8 speed. The 8 speed was okay, but 1oz Carolina weights took a little too much input (not a big deal, just don't want the bait all herky-jerky). Finally moved to a 7 speed and am much happier now. Personally I wouldn't go below 7 for almost anything, but I don't think a 6 speed for bottom contacts would be a fail, all the pros did it not too long ago.

When i fish a c rig, i do it with an 8.1 tat, but I always use 3/4 oz of brass, so it's not that bad unless I get into a lot of cabbage. The big gears on Tatulas and Zillion TWS help a lot in that respect. I have 9.1 Zillion and all it sees is flipping/pitching duty because youre right, the torque isn't there.

As far as the t rig goes, I'm just afraid of missing hooksets. I use a 7.3 zillion tws which brings in 32" per crank right now, and it's great, but it's a heavy duty reel I'd rather use on my jig rod. And i want to take the 7.1 T3 ballistic off of it and make it my travel reel for my ardito... Decisions decisions.

I guess I'll just drop 40-50 bucks for a 7.3 gear set if i decide a 6.3 is too slow. I'll still be way below retail and can switch it back should the need arise. Maybe I'll get a red handle nut plate and mag-dial too. It would look sweet with the gold CCC and nitride line guide, kinda like the zillion hd.

Unless you need the additional power, I don't see the point of slower speed reels. I just reel slower for low speed lure applications. I even read an article somewhere about how high speed reels are better for deep cranking as it lets you catch up to the fish better on a strike coming towards you.

Also, I think higher speeds are more popular now as there are mostly smaller diameter spools versus 10 years ago.

johnnybass wrote:Unless you need the additional power, I don't see the point of slower speed reels. I just reel slower for low speed lure applications. I even read an article somewhere about how high speed reels are better for deep cranking as it lets you catch up to the fish better on a strike coming towards you.

Also, I think higher speeds are more popular now as there are mostly smaller diameter spools versus 10 years ago.

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I believe you hit the nail on the head.

I grew up fishing a lot of 4 and 5 ratio reels. Fished a lot of plastics on those reels and did just fine. I will agree that in todays world I prefer a bit faster if given the choice mainly to take up slack line quickly when I feel the bite so I can make sure I get a good hook set. With that said I have 2 Daiwa TDZ 100m reles with the 6:3 gears and fish jigs and plastics on them. Haven't had any issues and a month a go while using one of them I was able to go 7 for 7 on bites felt and fish landed.

By that logic, a bi-plane was fine back then, why wouldn't it be fine for today's warfare? If the technology is available and doesn't cost more for a faster speed, i dont see why you wouldn't want to go faster. It is easy to slow down on a faster speed ratio, but very hard the other way around.

I would get something a little faster so you can get them out of cover quicker.

If it were for an all-around setup, I don't see why not. But if it were to be used on a dedicated rod/reel combo for t-rigs then I'd definitely go at least 7.

DirtyD64 wrote:I used a 9.1 Zillion for C-Rigs, but 5/8 and above the torque just wasn't there, so I moved to an 8 speed. The 8 speed was okay, but 1oz Carolina weights took a little too much input (not a big deal, just don't want the bait all herky-jerky). Finally moved to a 7 speed and am much happier now. Personally I wouldn't go below 7 for almost anything, but I don't think a 6 speed for bottom contacts would be a fail, all the pros did it not too long ago.

yep, same experience here. Had Abu Revo Rocket. Super high speed but the torque was just not there. Switched it to a 7.9:1 (SV103) and am happy now!

freelancer27 wrote:

DirtyD64 wrote:I used a 9.1 Zillion for C-Rigs, but 5/8 and above the torque just wasn't there, so I moved to an 8 speed. The 8 speed was okay, but 1oz Carolina weights took a little too much input (not a big deal, just don't want the bait all herky-jerky). Finally moved to a 7 speed and am much happier now. Personally I wouldn't go below 7 for almost anything, but I don't think a 6 speed for bottom contacts would be a fail, all the pros did it not too long ago.

yep, same experience here. Had Abu Revo Rocket. Super high speed but the torque was just not there. Switched it to a 7.9:1 (SV103) and am happy now!

Strange thing about that is, a 7.9 SV103 recovers like 34 inches per turn while the Revo Rocket recovers only 37 inches per turn, that might be a quality of gears/frame issue. I know my Revo Winch recovered 22 inches per turn (5.4 ratio) and my friends 5.5 Zillion TWS (recovers 24IPT) absolutely stomped it for torque. Really wish I had bought a 5.5 Zillion TWS when they were selling new for like $135.