I wanted to post a question in the Subject box, but my question was too long to fit in the box.
My question was "How Long do You Stay with a Lure or Technique that's NOT working/"
Example....you begin the early morning with a top water, say with a popper. No bites....BUT how long do you throw the popper? One hour? Or do you switch to a buzzbait after a half-hour of throwing the popper?
The same type of question could be asked about a jig, fishing docks with it. Do you throw the jig for an hour, with no bites....or keep at it for 2 hours? or change to a finesse worm or Senko after an hour or half hour?
On the techniques part....how long do you fish an area like docks if there is no bite? This is related to the lure question.
I hope that I get some good responses. I tend to stay with unproductive lures for too long. Sometimes I will stay with a lure IF it recently caught bass for me. Like a day or week before. BUT conditions change.
It really varies, if I had an intuitive sixth sense to know when to change my presentation, I might be able to fish for a living.
Personally for me, if I am at the back of the boat, I observe what the other guy is doing first, then make my adjustments accordingly, based on other factors such water clarity, structure, or whatever is working for him etc.
The one thing I can add is that no matter what I am using, I always have my Senko setup ready all the time. If my buddy misses a fish, I will chuck my Senko out there. Yeah, I admit it, I am a vulture, but a very effective one!
A few years back I realized I was changing baits way too often, and stubbornly sticking to what worked a week ago. I culled down to a six pack size tackle bag with a few confidence baits that cover the whole water column. Best fishing move I ever made. It cleared my mind and got me back to concentrating on fishing instead of obsessing on bait choices and colors. It has helped me a lot, but may not be the best approach for others.
I think, as a whole, we anglers over complicate things. It's almost as if there's too much information out there. We fishermen have "evolved" tenfold over the decades, but they're still the same pea brained bass that have been around for thousands of years. And they still have the upper hand
I am totally baffled about making that decision. I probably stay in an area too long, trying different baits, fishing fast, fishing slow, fishing different depths. When maybe I should just move across the lake.
- Speed, depth, presentation/action, dropping down in line size, or upping to a larger bait to punch through heavy cover.
- Color, size, weight, variations in blades/body/skirt materials.
- Time of the day...amazing what happens when sun angle, wind, water temp, shadows, etc., changes throughout the day or night.
All this said, I sometimes find that a different angle of the cast, or backing the boat back off the spot, or coming back at a later time when wind/clouds/chop provides cover - can trigger bites with the EXACT same lure and presentation that was ineffective just a few hours previously.
You may be surprised that if you just anchor and wait a while, the mood of the fish and prey, along with the progression of the day - will let you know when your quarry "more ready" to cooperate.
Thanks for the info, esp the 20-30 minutes. Your lures with the top waters are good, except during colder times when the top water bite disappears.the hooligan wrote:I give baits about 20-30 minutes before i switch up. If im fishing a shallow pond ill most likely go with just topwater and plastics. If im fishing a deep lake then the whole arsenal comes, lol. Ill start topwater, then jerks, then cranks, and then plastics. Work each column thoroughly and see what the fish want...
My thought process saturday was that if they wouldnt hit the grub being fished slow that wouldnt hit any plastics.... i was wrong and im almost positive that i wouldnt have gotten skunked if i would have changed plastics saturday...
So yeah if it hasnt worked in about 20min...you need to change up something but maybe a small change is all ya need...