I was one of the people who posted your vid, and oh boy did i pay the price. Got talked down and deleted for posting nonsense content that "only contains someone's opinion and nothing more"

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661MXB 115g
701MXB 120g
761HFB 140g
801HFB 155g

Which steez are you talking about

For me personally....Out of the big named reels.....Abu, Okuma, shimano, daiwa. There isn't a single reel in their line ups that oyu can't back out the spool tensioner all the way to a setting that allows for a slight bit of side to side travel. And set the brakes at a setting that will still cast ...

"Matt Baldwin3 days ago So in 20mph wind with completely subjective effort casting, your result showed a 1% difference in results and that is a win? You might want to talk to 13 Fishing and they can give you some tips on how to set up the Z because it is different than what you are used to...an...

Ya, CT is just smaller frame, because people didnt like the frame size of the original.

https://youtu.be/pYNEm4I6H8E?t=934 Remember this? big head-scratcher on so many levels Yeah, I don't know how in the world a dedicated BFS reel (SS air) can throw 1/8 oz only 70 or so feet, unless you choke the settings down so that it cannot cast freely. I have a reel with that same spool that can...

Oh but im absolutely NOT implying its a bad thing. Just saying that its not worth writing XShip on the box when Daiwa had it forever and didn't even bother calling it as a feature. I agree, but it is a useful feature when compared to something like their S3D spool (increased stability and reduced v...

https://youtu.be/pYNEm4I6H8E?t=934
Remember this? big head-scratcher on so many levels

grantman83 wrote:I think he is referencing that the concept z had the longest single cast out of the whole test at like 212 feet. The k had the highest overall average

ohhhh I see, I thought he was talking about the final results

I agree with this. In THE REEL TEST video the Z did actually get the farthest distance. Against Shimanos most important reel in their line-up the Curado K the Z without using ballbearing had the longest cast. No it didnt, curado K out cast the concept z in reel test. Look at the 11:20 mark Yes it d...

Wonder if a 150 spool could or would replace the HD spool. Only downfall to my Tatula HD is that dang fixed inductor, even though it seems fine for now as a deep cranking/chatterbait reel... You mean if a 153 spool can fit into the original HD reel? Daiwa lists them both as 36mm spool, so im guessi...

So....basically summarizing everything on this thread. The Concept Z has proven its point and philosophy. We have developed a new one-piece bearing technology that casts equal to or better than the reels in its class you guys are so caught up in proving what will cast longer you seem to have missed...

What do you mean by crimp?

I personally use 30lb braid to a 14lb sufix elite mono leader. Iv used the elite for a few years and really like it. Not as supple as super natural, but im using it as a leader so it doesnt matter to me.

ya, what was the "Thanks for the review! We needed a good laugh on a Friday! " left by 13 fishing on reel test's video all about? Also, im curious if this concept Z bearing will actually last longer than a standard BB and fully sealed CRBB found on shimano/daiwa reels. Maybe spray some sal...

LowRange wrote:It appears to be the old tat frame. The shallower spool indicates that it may be a Magforce Z reel unlike the previous fixed inductor tat HDs. Is Magforce Z listed anywhere?

Yes, the 153 HD has MagForce Z